Mike Ritland

And at some point, it just kind of goes outside that bubble because it gets enough traction. Like, Vice took it. Forbes took it. You know, there's so many different high-profile... This has been in Forbes? Oh, yeah, this has been in Forbes a couple times. Look, Bob, I made it to Forbes. Yeah, it's been pretty wild. I am at the point, though, where I am starting to think about...

And at some point, it just kind of goes outside that bubble because it gets enough traction. Like, Vice took it. Forbes took it. You know, there's so many different high-profile... This has been in Forbes? Oh, yeah, this has been in Forbes a couple times. Look, Bob, I made it to Forbes. Yeah, it's been pretty wild. I am at the point, though, where I am starting to think about...

Focusing purely on this, because this has just become this awesome monster that takes a lot of my time, as well as running Red Team as well. So that's probably something I'm going to be pivoting into very shortly. And focusing on that, helping the team, and seeing what more we can do. Probably going to relax for a bit, though. Good for you.

Focusing purely on this, because this has just become this awesome monster that takes a lot of my time, as well as running Red Team as well. So that's probably something I'm going to be pivoting into very shortly. And focusing on that, helping the team, and seeing what more we can do. Probably going to relax for a bit, though. Good for you.

Focusing purely on this, because this has just become this awesome monster that takes a lot of my time, as well as running Red Team as well. So that's probably something I'm going to be pivoting into very shortly. And focusing on that, helping the team, and seeing what more we can do. Probably going to relax for a bit, though. Good for you.

It's very good. So I'm probably long overdue to jump.

It's very good. So I'm probably long overdue to jump.

It's very good. So I'm probably long overdue to jump.

I have no idea. So I've never had a plan ever on any of this. It's just what's the thing and the opportunity at the moment and how can I play with that in an interesting way. Yeah. Which, you know, there's a lot of things why you would want to plan in business, but I just, yeah, I don't know, maybe eventually I'll have a plan.

I have no idea. So I've never had a plan ever on any of this. It's just what's the thing and the opportunity at the moment and how can I play with that in an interesting way. Yeah. Which, you know, there's a lot of things why you would want to plan in business, but I just, yeah, I don't know, maybe eventually I'll have a plan.

I have no idea. So I've never had a plan ever on any of this. It's just what's the thing and the opportunity at the moment and how can I play with that in an interesting way. Yeah. Which, you know, there's a lot of things why you would want to plan in business, but I just, yeah, I don't know, maybe eventually I'll have a plan.

I mean, it's been five, six years now, and I'm very proud of the results of it with all the places where it's been fixed and the very low abuse scenarios. We're very intentional when we think about... okay, let's add a feature to this, but let's figure out who wants this feature, who's going to make use of it. For instance, the number one that I want to avoid is like stalkerware, spouseware stuff.

I mean, it's been five, six years now, and I'm very proud of the results of it with all the places where it's been fixed and the very low abuse scenarios. We're very intentional when we think about... okay, let's add a feature to this, but let's figure out who wants this feature, who's going to make use of it. For instance, the number one that I want to avoid is like stalkerware, spouseware stuff.

I mean, it's been five, six years now, and I'm very proud of the results of it with all the places where it's been fixed and the very low abuse scenarios. We're very intentional when we think about... okay, let's add a feature to this, but let's figure out who wants this feature, who's going to make use of it. For instance, the number one that I want to avoid is like stalkerware, spouseware stuff.

People look at this and they're like, oh yeah, I need that for that. I'm like, no, I'm going to make that hard. That's not as valuable to a red team professional. We're trying to get into corporate infrastructure. We're trying to do like Ocean's Eleven shit on... like a Fortune 10 or something like that.

People look at this and they're like, oh yeah, I need that for that. I'm like, no, I'm going to make that hard. That's not as valuable to a red team professional. We're trying to get into corporate infrastructure. We're trying to do like Ocean's Eleven shit on... like a Fortune 10 or something like that.

People look at this and they're like, oh yeah, I need that for that. I'm like, no, I'm going to make that hard. That's not as valuable to a red team professional. We're trying to get into corporate infrastructure. We're trying to do like Ocean's Eleven shit on... like a Fortune 10 or something like that.

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