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Mike Ritland

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2565 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And just gets you to think like, wait, if I can do that, if they did that, what else can you do? Yeah. Let's play. It's all about exploration, experimentation. It is a frontier, too. There's just unexplored space. What else can you do? Outside of 2600, there's all the tools that people knew of the early online days, like Sub-7 or Netbus.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And just gets you to think like, wait, if I can do that, if they did that, what else can you do? Yeah. Let's play. It's all about exploration, experimentation. It is a frontier, too. There's just unexplored space. What else can you do? Outside of 2600, there's all the tools that people knew of the early online days, like Sub-7 or Netbus.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And just gets you to think like, wait, if I can do that, if they did that, what else can you do? Yeah. Let's play. It's all about exploration, experimentation. It is a frontier, too. There's just unexplored space. What else can you do? Outside of 2600, there's all the tools that people knew of the early online days, like Sub-7 or Netbus.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Kind of like a software trojan, more or less. Basically, you get somebody to run it, or you run it on their computer, And it gives you remote access, right? You can fully control those machines over the internet, right? open up the CD trays, close it up, just all kinds of wonky stuff that could be for pranks or could be criminal. God, okay. Reminds me of one of the ways we used it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Kind of like a software trojan, more or less. Basically, you get somebody to run it, or you run it on their computer, And it gives you remote access, right? You can fully control those machines over the internet, right? open up the CD trays, close it up, just all kinds of wonky stuff that could be for pranks or could be criminal. God, okay. Reminds me of one of the ways we used it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Kind of like a software trojan, more or less. Basically, you get somebody to run it, or you run it on their computer, And it gives you remote access, right? You can fully control those machines over the internet, right? open up the CD trays, close it up, just all kinds of wonky stuff that could be for pranks or could be criminal. God, okay. Reminds me of one of the ways we used it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

So again, I was way more about just pranking and having fun. My friend in high school, her name was Heather. She was really into like... Just... spiritual stuff and like, you know, she thought like spirits were in her house and stuff like that. It was a phase, right? But a friend and I had that running on our computer and you could play noises at the middle of the night and shit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

So again, I was way more about just pranking and having fun. My friend in high school, her name was Heather. She was really into like... Just... spiritual stuff and like, you know, she thought like spirits were in her house and stuff like that. It was a phase, right? But a friend and I had that running on our computer and you could play noises at the middle of the night and shit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

So again, I was way more about just pranking and having fun. My friend in high school, her name was Heather. She was really into like... Just... spiritual stuff and like, you know, she thought like spirits were in her house and stuff like that. It was a phase, right? But a friend and I had that running on our computer and you could play noises at the middle of the night and shit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And just like, it was terrible. It was so bad. And you know, the CD drives would open just like, you know, She was terrified at the time, but later on thought it was funny. But yeah, for an example, right? Like, you can just have fun. You can play with people. You don't have to actually straight up do crime. Crime does occasionally pay, though, so some people would get into that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And just like, it was terrible. It was so bad. And you know, the CD drives would open just like, you know, She was terrified at the time, but later on thought it was funny. But yeah, for an example, right? Like, you can just have fun. You can play with people. You don't have to actually straight up do crime. Crime does occasionally pay, though, so some people would get into that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

And just like, it was terrible. It was so bad. And you know, the CD drives would open just like, you know, She was terrified at the time, but later on thought it was funny. But yeah, for an example, right? Like, you can just have fun. You can play with people. You don't have to actually straight up do crime. Crime does occasionally pay, though, so some people would get into that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

How would they use it? For criminal? Yeah. God, this goes way back. I mean, we're talking like 20 or 25 years ago. So I'm not 100% remembering this, but it would have been... You can do like file system modification, stuff like that. So... You can get access to cookies that will contain login information. You can just get into people's accounts, send mail as them.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

How would they use it? For criminal? Yeah. God, this goes way back. I mean, we're talking like 20 or 25 years ago. So I'm not 100% remembering this, but it would have been... You can do like file system modification, stuff like that. So... You can get access to cookies that will contain login information. You can just get into people's accounts, send mail as them.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

How would they use it? For criminal? Yeah. God, this goes way back. I mean, we're talking like 20 or 25 years ago. So I'm not 100% remembering this, but it would have been... You can do like file system modification, stuff like that. So... You can get access to cookies that will contain login information. You can just get into people's accounts, send mail as them.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Spamming was a huge thing back then. That's where Bryce has gotten a lot of attention.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Spamming was a huge thing back then. That's where Bryce has gotten a lot of attention.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Spamming was a huge thing back then. That's where Bryce has gotten a lot of attention.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

reputation from from those early days spamming um my my friend at the time uh paid for his first computer by spamming for a porn company actually which is funny because he's uh cashing a check sizable check for a porn company and he's like i don't know he's probably like 14 or something at the time getting like weird eyes from the bank um so yeah that happened but um What else?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

reputation from from those early days spamming um my my friend at the time uh paid for his first computer by spamming for a porn company actually which is funny because he's uh cashing a check sizable check for a porn company and he's like i don't know he's probably like 14 or something at the time getting like weird eyes from the bank um so yeah that happened but um What else?