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Mike Ritland

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2565 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I like Signal. Signal's great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I like Signal. Signal's great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I like Signal. Signal's great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I'm sure they did. I mean, so, I think they helped fund it, actually. But they helped fund a lot of things, our government, in many ways. But, I mean, Signal is an amazing tool if you're an agent as well. Like, you're going to be overseas in hostile environments, and you need to communicate. how are you going to do that securely?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I'm sure they did. I mean, so, I think they helped fund it, actually. But they helped fund a lot of things, our government, in many ways. But, I mean, Signal is an amazing tool if you're an agent as well. Like, you're going to be overseas in hostile environments, and you need to communicate. how are you going to do that securely?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I'm sure they did. I mean, so, I think they helped fund it, actually. But they helped fund a lot of things, our government, in many ways. But, I mean, Signal is an amazing tool if you're an agent as well. Like, you're going to be overseas in hostile environments, and you need to communicate. how are you going to do that securely?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Are you going to use a secure tool that stands out like a giant red flag because nobody else is using it? Probably not the greatest thing. It's like, hi, I'm an agent. I don't know what you're saying, but there's an agent right there, right? Like, I mean, obviously, there's answers to that and stuff, but it's valuable as like, oh, that's just the tool everybody uses.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Are you going to use a secure tool that stands out like a giant red flag because nobody else is using it? Probably not the greatest thing. It's like, hi, I'm an agent. I don't know what you're saying, but there's an agent right there, right? Like, I mean, obviously, there's answers to that and stuff, but it's valuable as like, oh, that's just the tool everybody uses.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Are you going to use a secure tool that stands out like a giant red flag because nobody else is using it? Probably not the greatest thing. It's like, hi, I'm an agent. I don't know what you're saying, but there's an agent right there, right? Like, I mean, obviously, there's answers to that and stuff, but it's valuable as like, oh, that's just the tool everybody uses.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Signal, everybody's got that, right? Like, that's valuable. You know, obviously, there's always tradeoffs, right? It's like it can be used for bad, it can be used for good, and, you know, who's bad and who's good and who's perspectives.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Signal, everybody's got that, right? Like, that's valuable. You know, obviously, there's always tradeoffs, right? It's like it can be used for bad, it can be used for good, and, you know, who's bad and who's good and who's perspectives.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Signal, everybody's got that, right? Like, that's valuable. You know, obviously, there's always tradeoffs, right? It's like it can be used for bad, it can be used for good, and, you know, who's bad and who's good and who's perspectives.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

A lot of people, yeah. I'll meet them where they're at. My manufacturers and stuff don't use Signal. They've got different governments over them and things like that. It's interesting. Whatever you use, I'll meet you there. Contextually, it matters. I'm on this platform, which can be seen by These adversaries, cool, noted.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

A lot of people, yeah. I'll meet them where they're at. My manufacturers and stuff don't use Signal. They've got different governments over them and things like that. It's interesting. Whatever you use, I'll meet you there. Contextually, it matters. I'm on this platform, which can be seen by These adversaries, cool, noted.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

A lot of people, yeah. I'll meet them where they're at. My manufacturers and stuff don't use Signal. They've got different governments over them and things like that. It's interesting. Whatever you use, I'll meet you there. Contextually, it matters. I'm on this platform, which can be seen by These adversaries, cool, noted.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I'll make sure I keep that in mind, which is kind of the whole point of like the psychology when you know you're being watched changes how you behave in ways that can be negative. Like, if you're always being watched by somebody, what does that make you? How does that make you behave? Different. So, yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I'll make sure I keep that in mind, which is kind of the whole point of like the psychology when you know you're being watched changes how you behave in ways that can be negative. Like, if you're always being watched by somebody, what does that make you? How does that make you behave? Different. So, yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

I'll make sure I keep that in mind, which is kind of the whole point of like the psychology when you know you're being watched changes how you behave in ways that can be negative. Like, if you're always being watched by somebody, what does that make you? How does that make you behave? Different. So, yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Yeah, I mean, there's lots of other cool things in this catalog, like... Oh, Raptor Reflector. So, this is for picking up... Audio, this is standard audio bugs, right? Like, you know, spying on what's happening in the room. What else we got? Lots of cellular-based stuff. Now, this is like 10 years old at this point, so a lot of this stuff is well-known. Really tiny implants.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#164 Mike Grover - How Hacking Tools Are Changing Cyber Warfare

Yeah, I mean, there's lots of other cool things in this catalog, like... Oh, Raptor Reflector. So, this is for picking up... Audio, this is standard audio bugs, right? Like, you know, spying on what's happening in the room. What else we got? Lots of cellular-based stuff. Now, this is like 10 years old at this point, so a lot of this stuff is well-known. Really tiny implants.