Mike Ryan

No, I mean, look, at this moment, he's a trader, and I don't want to retire his number, but the zoomed-out view is obviously it's an enormous success. Zach Lowe wrote two months before the Jimmy Butler trade that the Heat had the bleakest future of any team in the NBA, and he wasn't wrong. I mean, it was insane that they got Jimmy and got to finals.

No, I mean, look, at this moment, he's a trader, and I don't want to retire his number, but the zoomed-out view is obviously it's an enormous success. Zach Lowe wrote two months before the Jimmy Butler trade that the Heat had the bleakest future of any team in the NBA, and he wasn't wrong. I mean, it was insane that they got Jimmy and got to finals.

I mean, when they got Jimmy, as Dan has pointed out, that was supposed to be move number one, and then you get two or three guys. So the idea that just Jimmy... It was an enormous success. And I hope one day they do retire his number. But for now, he's dead to me.

I mean, when they got Jimmy, as Dan has pointed out, that was supposed to be move number one, and then you get two or three guys. So the idea that just Jimmy... It was an enormous success. And I hope one day they do retire his number. But for now, he's dead to me.

I'm not fooling anyone. I mean, look, I would have preferred to have Kevin Durant. I think if we get Kevin Durant, you get me with sunglasses today, you get a different version. It's hard to put on the sunglasses when it's Andrew Wiggins. But lockdown defender. And what I'm really excited about is P.J. Tucker. I can't lie. I like P.J.

I'm not fooling anyone. I mean, look, I would have preferred to have Kevin Durant. I think if we get Kevin Durant, you get me with sunglasses today, you get a different version. It's hard to put on the sunglasses when it's Andrew Wiggins. But lockdown defender. And what I'm really excited about is P.J. Tucker. I can't lie. I like P.J.

Tucker more than LeBron James when it comes to what they meant to the Heat. That's a legitimate take that I have.

Tucker more than LeBron James when it comes to what they meant to the Heat. That's a legitimate take that I have.

Well, if you count the one that I count, which is they were up in the first nine minutes of game one against the Lakers in that finals, and then bam, and Goran got hurt, I count that as a ring. So technically they have one to answer your question.

Well, if you count the one that I count, which is they were up in the first nine minutes of game one against the Lakers in that finals, and then bam, and Goran got hurt, I count that as a ring. So technically they have one to answer your question.

Two to one.

Two to one.

Ooze tanking, bro. You know what it is. No, I don't.

Ooze tanking, bro. You know what it is. No, I don't.

I can't believe you're still talking about this. Before I leave, just mention P.J. Tucker more. He's one of the all-time key culture players. For the love of God.

I can't believe you're still talking about this. Before I leave, just mention P.J. Tucker more. He's one of the all-time key culture players. For the love of God.

Oh, there it is. There it is. We've got a penalty. Five minutes. Major asshole. Major asshole, yes.

Oh, there it is. There it is. We've got a penalty. Five minutes. Major asshole. Major asshole, yes.

So that guy who was breaking the news like the person whispering into George Bush's ear on 9-11.

So that guy who was breaking the news like the person whispering into George Bush's ear on 9-11.