Mike Ryan

We'll get into all those particulars in this episode that'll cover probably the second most important decision because the decision to leave ESPN when that time came was probably the biggest for our lives. But professionally, second biggest decision the show ever made. And it wasn't going to ESPN in the first place because we had carved out a nice little lane there in afternoons.

We'll get into all those particulars in this episode that'll cover probably the second most important decision because the decision to leave ESPN when that time came was probably the biggest for our lives. But professionally, second biggest decision the show ever made. And it wasn't going to ESPN in the first place because we had carved out a nice little lane there in afternoons.

No one was really paying attention to us. We had already made that decision. The decision to go to mid-days really changed everything for us in a variety of ways. I guess professionally, there were a lot of benefits too. Our reach was about to increase dramatically. Our visibility, our cultural impact, the money that we made, all this was a bit of a game changer for us.

No one was really paying attention to us. We had already made that decision. The decision to go to mid-days really changed everything for us in a variety of ways. I guess professionally, there were a lot of benefits too. Our reach was about to increase dramatically. Our visibility, our cultural impact, the money that we made, all this was a bit of a game changer for us.

But what Dan was consistently warning against as you and I pushed for this move.

But what Dan was consistently warning against as you and I pushed for this move.

to replace Colin Coward, and we'll get into all those spicy details here in this episode, was we go to this great prize piece of real estate in radio, and all of a sudden, overnight, a lot of suits that left us alone, that probably left the office early before we even turned on our microphones in the afternoon, all of a sudden had to justify their jobs and their responsibilities and pay attention to a show that didn't really care much for the ESPN brand.

to replace Colin Coward, and we'll get into all those spicy details here in this episode, was we go to this great prize piece of real estate in radio, and all of a sudden, overnight, a lot of suits that left us alone, that probably left the office early before we even turned on our microphones in the afternoon, all of a sudden had to justify their jobs and their responsibilities and pay attention to a show that didn't really care much for the ESPN brand.

So let's get into how that opportunity presented itself initially. But we have to address that around this time, it's kind of an ambiguous timeline. Chris Cody was an intern and then made full-time, I think briefly, by Lincoln Financial, which was about to sell to Entercom.

So let's get into how that opportunity presented itself initially. But we have to address that around this time, it's kind of an ambiguous timeline. Chris Cody was an intern and then made full-time, I think briefly, by Lincoln Financial, which was about to sell to Entercom.

Chris Cody goes from Nepo Baby intern to Nepo Baby employee and joins our team formally because I remember Chris in the Clevelander as we were building stuff out being a big part of that process.

Chris Cody goes from Nepo Baby intern to Nepo Baby employee and joins our team formally because I remember Chris in the Clevelander as we were building stuff out being a big part of that process.

Tell me more about that because one of your best friends in the world is Greg Cody and his son wants to do this. It's one thing to say, yeah, we'll give him an internship, see if he wants to try it out. But by then you grew a bit more of a callous to the radio industry, having gone through the primetime media days. Your tone with Chris Cody was a loving one.

Tell me more about that because one of your best friends in the world is Greg Cody and his son wants to do this. It's one thing to say, yeah, we'll give him an internship, see if he wants to try it out. But by then you grew a bit more of a callous to the radio industry, having gone through the primetime media days. Your tone with Chris Cody was a loving one.

Like, I don't think you want this in your life because it's a very difficult industry. And I'm curious to know how those conversations went, not just with Chris, but perhaps with his father.

Like, I don't think you want this in your life because it's a very difficult industry. And I'm curious to know how those conversations went, not just with Chris, but perhaps with his father.

future in this career just because we were having so much fun creating stuff he didn't take your advice i was i was happy to have chris aboard though very quietly and i'd say quietly because as we've highlighted before this era the shipping container is just about finding its voice but the full-on ensemble that maybe the audience now knows wasn't fully developed these characters individually and collectively weren't fully developed but we were a very young team and it was very different than what you had before when you had mark hawkman's cul-de-sac in charge

future in this career just because we were having so much fun creating stuff he didn't take your advice i was i was happy to have chris aboard though very quietly and i'd say quietly because as we've highlighted before this era the shipping container is just about finding its voice but the full-on ensemble that maybe the audience now knows wasn't fully developed these characters individually and collectively weren't fully developed but we were a very young team and it was very different than what you had before when you had mark hawkman's cul-de-sac in charge

Yes, very good. He was great for morale. He had a good energy in there. He was fun, lighthearted. Billy was stressed with all these additional responsibilities. Roy is very cerebral. So to have that youthful energy there was good. And we also got even more popular by being so much younger in that back room. hip show, if you can imagine that way back then.

Yes, very good. He was great for morale. He had a good energy in there. He was fun, lighthearted. Billy was stressed with all these additional responsibilities. Roy is very cerebral. So to have that youthful energy there was good. And we also got even more popular by being so much younger in that back room. hip show, if you can imagine that way back then.