Mike Shea

the first time but you know whatever so here we are now and i think it makes a lot of sense and that's why you see things like monsters that do a lot of extra elemental damage on certain attacks we started to see this propagate its way through other one through other monster books and monster products that we've seen from wizards of the coast but i haven't heard it articulated quite that way before which which really makes sense it doesn't necessarily mean the monsters are more powerful

the first time but you know whatever so here we are now and i think it makes a lot of sense and that's why you see things like monsters that do a lot of extra elemental damage on certain attacks we started to see this propagate its way through other one through other monster books and monster products that we've seen from wizards of the coast but i haven't heard it articulated quite that way before which which really makes sense it doesn't necessarily mean the monsters are more powerful

They might feel, I think they are at the higher challenge rating. So I think they've recognized it again. We'll see. We'll have to see what their higher challenge rating monsters look like. But they did say, oh, higher level monsters are now higher challenge rating monsters are definitely going to be hitting harder than they used to.

They might feel, I think they are at the higher challenge rating. So I think they've recognized it again. We'll see. We'll have to see what their higher challenge rating monsters look like. But they did say, oh, higher level monsters are now higher challenge rating monsters are definitely going to be hitting harder than they used to.

They might feel, I think they are at the higher challenge rating. So I think they've recognized it again. We'll see. We'll have to see what their higher challenge rating monsters look like. But they did say, oh, higher level monsters are now higher challenge rating monsters are definitely going to be hitting harder than they used to.

But it sounds like all the other monsters are going to be generally hitting at the challenge rating they were hitting at. Just now, it's a lot harder to not hit at that challenge rating. So that's going to be pretty interesting. And so I'm going to have a look at that. That'll be kind of interesting to see. I am worried about how spells are going to work. I was confident.

But it sounds like all the other monsters are going to be generally hitting at the challenge rating they were hitting at. Just now, it's a lot harder to not hit at that challenge rating. So that's going to be pretty interesting. And so I'm going to have a look at that. That'll be kind of interesting to see. I am worried about how spells are going to work. I was confident.

But it sounds like all the other monsters are going to be generally hitting at the challenge rating they were hitting at. Just now, it's a lot harder to not hit at that challenge rating. So that's going to be pretty interesting. And so I'm going to have a look at that. That'll be kind of interesting to see. I am worried about how spells are going to work. I was confident.

And it's funny because they convinced me of this. In the old 2014 Monster Manual, you had creatures like the mage. Why don't we pull up a 2014 mage? This is the 2014 Mage stat block, which is available in the 5.1 SRD and also available in the 2014 Monster Manual. And it's a CR 6, right?

And it's funny because they convinced me of this. In the old 2014 Monster Manual, you had creatures like the mage. Why don't we pull up a 2014 mage? This is the 2014 Mage stat block, which is available in the 5.1 SRD and also available in the 2014 Monster Manual. And it's a CR 6, right?

And it's funny because they convinced me of this. In the old 2014 Monster Manual, you had creatures like the mage. Why don't we pull up a 2014 mage? This is the 2014 Mage stat block, which is available in the 5.1 SRD and also available in the 2014 Monster Manual. And it's a CR 6, right?

And this is that perfect example I was talking about of like, you know, if you have your Mage go up and stab someone with a dagger for plus 5 to hit for 4 damage, they're not hitting at a challenge rating 6. Right? 4 damage is not the damage that you would do for a CR 6 monster. Neither is 40 hit points, really, or 12 AC. That's really, really... Mages are kind of low power.

And this is that perfect example I was talking about of like, you know, if you have your Mage go up and stab someone with a dagger for plus 5 to hit for 4 damage, they're not hitting at a challenge rating 6. Right? 4 damage is not the damage that you would do for a CR 6 monster. Neither is 40 hit points, really, or 12 AC. That's really, really... Mages are kind of low power.

And this is that perfect example I was talking about of like, you know, if you have your Mage go up and stab someone with a dagger for plus 5 to hit for 4 damage, they're not hitting at a challenge rating 6. Right? 4 damage is not the damage that you would do for a CR 6 monster. Neither is 40 hit points, really, or 12 AC. That's really, really... Mages are kind of low power.

Until you get to their spells, and then you look at Cone of Cold, Fireball, Greater Invisibility, Ice Storm, Counterspell, Shield... You know, magic missile, right? When you get into the spell listings, now this guy's hitting pretty hard. If you have one that's using shield, it has mage armor already.

Until you get to their spells, and then you look at Cone of Cold, Fireball, Greater Invisibility, Ice Storm, Counterspell, Shield... You know, magic missile, right? When you get into the spell listings, now this guy's hitting pretty hard. If you have one that's using shield, it has mage armor already.

Until you get to their spells, and then you look at Cone of Cold, Fireball, Greater Invisibility, Ice Storm, Counterspell, Shield... You know, magic missile, right? When you get into the spell listings, now this guy's hitting pretty hard. If you have one that's using shield, it has mage armor already.

Well, now it's got an effective AC of 20 and could use counter spell instead of shield to negate spells and could have greater invisibility. So you can't really see it or target it. And it's hammering you with spells like fireball and cone of cold, which you get if it's one cone of cold and then three fireballs, unless it's using fireball. unless it's using like greater visibility or fly.

Well, now it's got an effective AC of 20 and could use counter spell instead of shield to negate spells and could have greater invisibility. So you can't really see it or target it. And it's hammering you with spells like fireball and cone of cold, which you get if it's one cone of cold and then three fireballs, unless it's using fireball. unless it's using like greater visibility or fly.

Well, now it's got an effective AC of 20 and could use counter spell instead of shield to negate spells and could have greater invisibility. So you can't really see it or target it. And it's hammering you with spells like fireball and cone of cold, which you get if it's one cone of cold and then three fireballs, unless it's using fireball. unless it's using like greater visibility or fly.