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Mike Shea

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The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

It was a one-to-one basis. A normal monster was equivalent to a normal character when its level was equal to the level of the character. And that meant like, oh, it's so much easier to build battles. If I have five ninth level characters, I know that five ninth level monsters is about a normal, I think it was like a normal to hard fight. And then I could trade them out.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

It was a one-to-one basis. A normal monster was equivalent to a normal character when its level was equal to the level of the character. And that meant like, oh, it's so much easier to build battles. If I have five ninth level characters, I know that five ninth level monsters is about a normal, I think it was like a normal to hard fight. And then I could trade them out.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

It was a one-to-one basis. A normal monster was equivalent to a normal character when its level was equal to the level of the character. And that meant like, oh, it's so much easier to build battles. If I have five ninth level characters, I know that five ninth level monsters is about a normal, I think it was like a normal to hard fight. And then I could trade them out.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

I could, for example, remove two of those monsters and replace it with a ninth level elite monster. If I wanted the battle to go a little harder, I could add a 10th level elite monster. If I had a solo monster like a dragon, I know that that was the equivalent of four characters.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

I could, for example, remove two of those monsters and replace it with a ninth level elite monster. If I wanted the battle to go a little harder, I could add a 10th level elite monster. If I had a solo monster like a dragon, I know that that was the equivalent of four characters.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

I could, for example, remove two of those monsters and replace it with a ninth level elite monster. If I wanted the battle to go a little harder, I could add a 10th level elite monster. If I had a solo monster like a dragon, I know that that was the equivalent of four characters.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

So I could have a 15th level solo adult black dragon and know that that's roughly equivalent to four 15th level characters. If the characters are 13th, they're going to have a harder time. If they're 16th or 17th, they're going to have an easier time. Lots of people, including the lead designer for fifth edition D&D prefers that system.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

So I could have a 15th level solo adult black dragon and know that that's roughly equivalent to four 15th level characters. If the characters are 13th, they're going to have a harder time. If they're 16th or 17th, they're going to have an easier time. Lots of people, including the lead designer for fifth edition D&D prefers that system.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

So I could have a 15th level solo adult black dragon and know that that's roughly equivalent to four 15th level characters. If the characters are 13th, they're going to have a harder time. If they're 16th or 17th, they're going to have an easier time. Lots of people, including the lead designer for fifth edition D&D prefers that system.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

Mike Morales has been talking about this and showing it on his Patreon. He's been talking a lot about it. Mike Morales was both a designer of fourth edition D&D and the lead designer of the 2014 version of fifth edition D&D. And he often says that challenge rating is a disaster, right? Like challenge rating is a complete mess and it's a complete disaster. I disagree.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

Mike Morales has been talking about this and showing it on his Patreon. He's been talking a lot about it. Mike Morales was both a designer of fourth edition D&D and the lead designer of the 2014 version of fifth edition D&D. And he often says that challenge rating is a disaster, right? Like challenge rating is a complete mess and it's a complete disaster. I disagree.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

Mike Morales has been talking about this and showing it on his Patreon. He's been talking a lot about it. Mike Morales was both a designer of fourth edition D&D and the lead designer of the 2014 version of fifth edition D&D. And he often says that challenge rating is a disaster, right? Like challenge rating is a complete mess and it's a complete disaster. I disagree.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

And I know it's weird because I disagree. What's funny is I think Merles was the one who wrote the articles about it that sold me on the idea that challenge reading is actually not a terrible way to rank monsters. And the reason why is that monsters in 5th edition D&D don't have those roles like 4th edition did. There aren't minions and elites and solos.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

And I know it's weird because I disagree. What's funny is I think Merles was the one who wrote the articles about it that sold me on the idea that challenge reading is actually not a terrible way to rank monsters. And the reason why is that monsters in 5th edition D&D don't have those roles like 4th edition did. There aren't minions and elites and solos.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

And I know it's weird because I disagree. What's funny is I think Merles was the one who wrote the articles about it that sold me on the idea that challenge reading is actually not a terrible way to rank monsters. And the reason why is that monsters in 5th edition D&D don't have those roles like 4th edition did. There aren't minions and elites and solos.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

There are legendary monsters and we'll talk about them, but they're not really the equivalent of a solo the same way that 4th edition solos were. So fourth edition D&D, when we talk about level, fourth edition D&D scaled really high. It meant that you automatically gained bonuses to almost everything that mattered, all the math that mattered to you, every level.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

There are legendary monsters and we'll talk about them, but they're not really the equivalent of a solo the same way that 4th edition solos were. So fourth edition D&D, when we talk about level, fourth edition D&D scaled really high. It meant that you automatically gained bonuses to almost everything that mattered, all the math that mattered to you, every level.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

There are legendary monsters and we'll talk about them, but they're not really the equivalent of a solo the same way that 4th edition solos were. So fourth edition D&D, when we talk about level, fourth edition D&D scaled really high. It meant that you automatically gained bonuses to almost everything that mattered, all the math that mattered to you, every level.

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

It was actually technically every other level, but the expectation was that magic items were picking up the rest. Your armor class went automatically up every other level. Your attack bonus went up every other level. If you think about how proficiency bonus works now, but even proficiency bonus doesn't go to armor class, right?

The Lazy RPG Podcast - D&D and RPG News and GM Prep from Sly Flourish
Challenge Rating Deep Dive – Lazy RPG Talk Show

It was actually technically every other level, but the expectation was that magic items were picking up the rest. Your armor class went automatically up every other level. Your attack bonus went up every other level. If you think about how proficiency bonus works now, but even proficiency bonus doesn't go to armor class, right?