Mike Tollin

There was a really interesting thing I heard.

Bob Daly, who used to run Warner Brothers, and then he came over to run the Dodgers, so now he's had a career of dealing with super egos and top-level celebrities.

And somebody said, what's harder, dealing with movie stars or star athletes?

And he said, oh, athletes are way harder because...

He used an example of Kevin Costner.

Kevin Costner was a pretty good athlete and a pretty cool kid, but he was just a regular kid until he became a movie star in, what, his 20s or his 30s, whereas Allen Iverson was a star at age 11 being sort of shoved through and being told, don't worry, we'll take care of you.

So they have that built-in entitlement from the time that they barely can read movies.

He's the only one.

But then, of course, he dedicates his life to trashing the guy who did make it instead of him and brings him to his Hall of Fame induction speech so he can embarrass him a lot.

It's tough.

Look, when the cheering stops, it goes back to Mickey Mantle.

He used to wake up in the middle of the night having these nightmares that they were still cheering him, and then it's over.

What do you do when you're Michael Jordan and then you're just a civilian?

He's been given a chance to run a ball club.

He has no interest, seemingly.

So he plays golf and, you know, gambles and whatever else it is.

The Magic Johnson is more of the exception to the rule, don't you think?

We went back 10 years later, found those same five kids from Morningside High School, sort of like the Michael Apted 7-up, 28-up, which is now up to like 56-up, where every seven years he revisits them.

So we went back when they were 28.

One had a college degree.