Mike Williams

And we just killed some time there.

So I was going to say no, but then we did it yesterday.

So maybe that's sort of an urge to get back there.

Certainly one thing from one takeaway from reading this book is that I really want to have that experience to get my ears cleaned.

I've never had it done before.

And the tools and the descriptions that we use to sort of talk about how it's done with the scooping and the feathering, I'm very keen to try it.

Sure.

Well, after 2020, the year that was, it left me like a lot of people asking some deeper questions about lots of things, but in particular, what the hell I do and why do I do it?

And so I've gone down a bit of a rabbit hole with books to try and help answer those questions and help with my thinking on that.

Seth Godin, I don't know if you're familiar with this guy, but he's sort of the godfather of

marketing.

It's not marketing, but it's actually deeper than marketing.

It's more of an approach for helping change culture.

So he put out a book last year called The Practice, which is very, very easy to read.

And then also on that vein, there's an author called Steven Pressfield, who's written about this idea called resistance.

And resistance is the thing that pulls us away from doing the things and the art that we want to make.

So he's got a

and try and hopefully help you solve that.

But my big one I'm reading is called Art and Fear.

This is from several years ago.