Milam Byers

Yeah.

And it wasn't a bus most of the time.

It was the van and trailer.

And our guitar player, Sam, would always...

three in the morning, be listening to George Norrie and, you know, through the night.

Oh yeah.

And so we would always talk, especially if we were in the Pacific Northwest, which just feels like Bigfoot's there, you know?

So we would always talk about these types of things.

But even like currently, I think there's probably too much evidence to say it's not

that it's nothing.

I don't really know what.

I think there's definitely a spiritual element involved, some kind of portals or things that we don't really know, but.

So your mind was open.

know getting into the rock and roll business yeah well bleach started in 96 like that was the first record so we're we're kind of celebrating 30 years right now doing some shows re-recording some songs so um that tape you had yeah hopefully we're making some versions that sound a lot better than what happened in 96. uh i didn't join the band until 2000.

I'd been in a couple of bands touring and met those guys in 99 because my band was opening for them on a three month tour and their guitar player left and they called me.

And so I came into the fold like kind of halfway through, like the third record had just come out and we toured that in the next couple of years and just kind of took off from there.

But

How I got into music, I mean, we were talking earlier about brothers and my older brother was definitely my gateway.

He's three years older and I got into it really young.

Like music always like deeply, like I always felt like