Milam Byers

Yeah.

So, and now here we are.

And then I see you guys at Chris's birthday party a few months ago, I guess.

Yeah.

Nate and I reconnect after probably decades.

Yeah.

Man, it's been...

I mean, the hill is such a big part of that.

And part of that was like,

trying to, because of things that have happened in the last couple of years, you know, with like business partners and such, I just have a tendency to just like pull back of like, oh man, can I trust anybody?

Am I crazy?

Should I try to do this?

Like, is this stupid?

Am I too old for this?

And I don't mean music, I just mean like business in general.

How do you, how do I make my way?

And that was, so yeah, like I've kind of this newfound freedom and creativity over the last few months to, you know, hopefully create some things that matter and

Still very heavily involved in the music industry and nonprofit work.

One of my outlets is something called Dark Horse Elite, and that was started by one of my brother's soldiers, Patrick Benson.

He's the one that hosted us and like made all that happen a few years ago with Tim, the driver.