Min Jin Lee

They're both very good at those things.

But in terms of parenting, they've always said out of the three girls of the three of us, my parents, their attitude is, oh, you'll figure it out.

You'll figure it out.

The upside is that it's given me a great sense of resilience.

But the downside is that I do live with a sort of terror like, oh, I have to figure this out.

I have no one to ask.

So all along my life, I've always found thousands of people who either feel sorry for me or who have decided to help me and who can like pat me on the head and go like, you, you need help.

You don't know what you're doing here.

Do this.

And that's one of the great things about New York, right, is that you'll find help in corners like some 80 year old, you know, Lithuanian immigrant will find me and say, oh, you you need help with this.

Come, come on, sit down.

will and I'll take notes things like that have happened quite a lot actually oh man I think that's one of the most wonderful things about you

So your first published book was Free Food for Millionaires.

But the first book you wrote was called Revival of the Senses, which you didn't publish.

And you've said this about that book.

It was so boring.

Really competent prose, but so, so boring.

And you want to state that even your husband said it's really boring.

And he's one of the nicest people on the planet.

Did you ever try to have it published?