Mina Kimes
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
I'm Pablo Torre, and this episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out is brought to you by Remy Martin 1738 Accord Royale. Exceptionally smooth cognac for all your game day festivities. Please drink responsibly, because today we're going to find out what this sound is.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
I do want to do a thing in a second here where we are going to draft the coolest athletes across at least the three major sports in the present day. So we're going to put this to the test. I'm going to seed that in your brains.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
We don't have to do it just yet, but we will answer and test David's theory about whether we are just afflicted with clinical old head-itis and cannot possibly actually consider a young person cool. I also want to add a wrinkle as we assess the criteria here for the committee of our audience to judge us, because On-field play, right? So are we saying that that is clearly not separate and apart?
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It is involved in the calculation, right?
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Yeah. But so just the greatness, though, right? Like, what does that get you? So Michael Jordan, I think, is a very reasonable answer. A very popular might be the number one answer when people think of the coolest basketball player of all time, because he both is a marketing vehicle was unprecedented. for the obvious Nike, et cetera, reasons. And every other sponsor thing, right?
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For our generation. Also because when it came to be the most pressurized moments, he had the greatest legend and arguably the greatest performance. So there's that. But then we get to, for instance, like to discern a bit of the lineage when it comes to Kobe, right? I'm like, I think there are lots of people who think that Kobe's cool, but I see an imitation of Michael Jordan.
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And I'm like, okay, I'm going to dock points for that. I think Kobe was, as great as he was, a legendary tryhard by the time that he became the guy who was branding all of his Mamba stuff.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Which is to say that I think the answers to the draft, as we go around in some sort of order, David, there's a, I know it when I see it definition, as opposed to like some strict criteria for better and for worse.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
By the way, this is how David realizes, oh, shit, I could have not done the conference call.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Should we get this draft going?
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
I think we should do coolest player per sport. For the three biggest sports. So we each pick one. So we're each going to draft our pick for who we think the coolest is. And if someone has drafted them, we cannot take them. And we will show our results at the end. Because I love a draft chart results.
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Oh, I knew the whole time. But, you know, hey, I was like, you know, being the good steward. Look, as we will get into, I'm just the cool guy. I'm Bart Simpson, you know, just skateboarding, spray painting stuff.
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Counterpoint. Counterpoint. I don't think Joe Burrow saying stuff is cool. I don't think Joe Burrow says cool stuff. I think he does cool stuff on the field.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Hmm. So Lamar gets. OK, so I'll go next second. Lamar has the anti-authority thing going. The fact that he doesn't have a conventional agent for better and for worse. I don't know if that's cool in the classic sense, but it's sort of like a you to the way that like football and business tends to operate. So the case for Lamar is strong. But I think I'm going to go Jalen Hurts.
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So far, I'm waiting for the problem. I remain waiting for the problem. Again, I grew up thinking that's what Gould looks like. Have you heard him in interviews?
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That's what I'm thinking about.
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No, I don't think we have one yet. He's going to go through that tunnel. Oh, my God. Hold on. There's a reference I'm going to pull out and Google.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Well, we did last gather to do an entire episode about the X-Men animated series reboot.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
First off, that is a show that I only know, of course, because of The Tunnel. I don't know what else happens on The Jennifer Hudson Show. I assume good stuff happens. I just know it as The Tunnel. I did see recently Randall Park go through The Tunnel. If you recall him, Asian dude.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
And he proceeded to like do a mixture of, we'll show this in post, a mixture of like sort of like popping and locking where I was like, I would aspire to do that and not be nearly as good and
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Right. I don't know. I did see Usher go through it on skits. And I was like, damn.
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Which I think is cool. Don't get cooler than that, guys. I think that there are some people out there who think that the three of us are cool. I think there are more people who would laugh at those people.
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The NBA. David, we're going to snake draft it.
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By the way, and awesome at a microphone. Does not give a f**k. Is incredible.
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And the greatest of all time.
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So, Steph, not even a consideration for you? Like, you're like, no, not even… No. Like, because Steph is the ultimate example to me of playing style…
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Yeah, I think that's fair. Influence, he's been so influential.
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Well, that brings me to my pick, because my pick is Ja Morant with an asterisk.
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Probably like third grade.
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I think that's, look, the unsaid thing in this article. It's right there for him.
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Everyone was ready. I had a friend who worked on, it's part of the Nike campaign that they were doing for Ja as all of this stuff was unfolding. And they had to blow it up and make it less cool because they had to make it so that actually Ja Morant was more palatable. to an audience that expected him to be a massive up who loved playing with guns. Like there is a line beyond which you go too far.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
And as much as the anti-authority thing is part of it, like he, at a certain point, you gotta know when to just stop. And that's where it became untenable.
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Yeah. Wow. Mina, what are you—you're picking college?
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It's more it's more it's more like, can you stay on the court?
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What do you think of...
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I was going to say, Mina has a clear thing for who she thinks is cool. It's looking into a camera.
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I mean, I picked Aja Wilson, so I get it. Samesies. I mean, Jalen Hurts, guys, is clearly a beautiful person. Yeah, he is. A beautiful, objectively beautiful person. Okay, so baseball. Are we ready to move on to baseball or any other takes we want to get off? One side, actually, one side brief postscript take about the NBA.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Because, David, you were hinting at this before, and Mina as well, like, as much as the current generation of NBA players might be starving for cool in the way that bloggers and others will approve of, if you go through, like, is LeBron cool?
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He's a literal corporation who is also trying very hard at all times. But if you just go through the list of like Kawhi Leonard, LeBron James, James Harden, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Paul George. I'm going through just like all NBA caliber guys. It's not like we have been dealing with a bumper crop of the previous generation where it's like, man, those guys check all the boxes, you know.
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I mean, I think the question.
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Mina goes first and there is a question that I'm wondering if she will ask out loud as she makes her first pick.
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He's also really good at bowling, and I want to unpack whether that makes him cool or not. Because he is like a professional caliber bowler. He's bowled a perfect 300. Also, another wildly attractive person.
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Are we saying definitively, because Mina brought us to the team in question, like Shohei Otani, not cool.
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Does he have a crippling gambling addiction? You know, these are ongoing mysteries. Yes.
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This is also where I need to remind people, Mina, that David Dennis Jr. is a former beer pong partner of his classmate at Davidson, Steph Curry. So he is both observer and participant.
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Right, right, right, right. People are in awe of the sound that the ball makes off his bat. People are in awe of his physical stature. People are in awe that he can do any of this. He also is, I think to the earlier point, like so private that it creates this aura of its own.
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I think we're learning that too. Like being less online on some level actually does in this era. Yeah, it creates the intrigue that I think rates as cool. I think I got to go with, I'm looking up his age right now to invalidate David's theory about how we can't really respect young people as we continue to draft some young people. I'm going Ellie De La Cruz.
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So he's not like, again, household name necessarily, but he should be if you like baseball in any vague way. He stole a zillion bases. I think it was 25 and 65 was the first shortstop to ever do it. And that dude playing in the Cincinnati region. I'm like, yeah, I think that feels like conventional. Like that's just an all-time athlete doing cool stuff. And I select him.
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I think there's kind of a… There's almost like a parallel to like sneaker sales to me. Where like the guys who are too large…
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Is Nikola Jokic who... Oh, Mina's shaking her head no immediately. He doesn't care. He's not effortful in the way that we expect athletes to care. But he's also clearly... Yeah, I think he's one of the most skilled players in NBA history. Why isn't he cool? Big man? Is it the big man thing?
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
But David Dennis Jr. was the original Splash Brother. This is a fact. This is real. This is not an exaggeration. Also, I am now banning officially Nick Wright. I just want to say, you, Nick Wright, you're off the show. We can get into that at a separate time.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
So I want to recap what we've done here today. In the NFL, the three coolest players as appointed by the three of us. Number one, Mina Kimes took Joe Burrow. Number two, I took Jalen Hurts with, in parentheses, the one next to it, with Kangol. Kangol is essential. And number three, David Dennis Jr. took Lamar Jackson. What did we do for the NBA? Who remembers what we did? Oh, David, right.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
It was David Dennis Jr., number one, Aja Wilson. Me, number two, John Morant, asterisk. Number three.
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My picks are great so far. Number three, Mina Kimes, Dame Lillard, looking into the camera like f***ing Jim Halpert or Randall Park. And then baseball, number one. Mina took Mookie Betts. Number two, I took Ellie De La Cruz. And number three, David Dennis Jr. took... Shohei Otani.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Damn, how did David out-Asian us?
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I wound up with a Kangol and potentially future gun charges, which is suboptimal, I guess.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
At the end of every episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out, we go around and say what we found out today after having a, I would say, a pretty in-depth discussion of cool. Mina, what did you find out?
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Cool person. Actually, extremely cool. What's his name?
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What I found out, David, is that Mina also showed up to today's episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out with multiple clips. And so there is a clip from, I believe, one of the reality shows in question that Cortez could not be more excited about. And I have no idea what this is. So I'm about to find out right now.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Well, Mina, also because he did this to you today.
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So I guess I should. It's been whispered into my ear because I didn't realize this until Rob whispered it. They can't see each other at that point.
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Because there is a wall that's the whole blind.
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And so I am told now, reliably, we have the reveal when they can see each other. Oh, God. No!
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Thank you both for helping me find out more than I bargained for.
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Staring into the camera and wink. Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Averoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Dawig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McRae, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tuminello, and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems. Our sound design by NGW Post. Our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
And we will talk to you next time.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Yeah. Both Mr. Irrelevant, I dare say.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
All right, fine, let's start the actual show. So the thing I wanted to start with, guys, is, in fact, a case study in Cool. And it started on Substack, which is not the coolest place for things to start. But there's an anonymous author who goes by the handle of Ox Portello, which is, I believe, a reference to Inherent Vice. Already setting sort of like the highbrow kind of illusion standard here.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
We know we're harkening back. When we asked David to read this, David, your initial review of the piece was, in brief?
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It was a very much like... All cultures matter. All cultures matter. But the thing that got this going viral around the NBA internet, at the very least, was one statement in particular that I think is consensus. And it was articulated thusly, quote, For as long as I can remember, the NBA has served as a cultural North Star. These NBA playoffs portend a crisis of cool."
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
And he goes on to analyze Jalen Brunson and Tyrese Halliburton and Shea Gildress Alexander, categorizing them as uncool, which I would like us to discuss. Anthony Edwards sort of sticks out as, quote, the exception proving the rule.
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of cool, that actually he is somebody who is so alone in his coolness that the others who are variously, I would say, try-hard meme lords who seem to be imitative of previous imitations even, there was a bunch of that. And so I just want to start, Mina, by actually articulating What do we mean by cool? How do we even define this?
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Because yes, it is one, I believe, white blogger's opinion that the categories flow as such. But I do think there's something he's getting at here that's worth talking about.
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But he was almost too cool for basketball. I mean, he was a quarterback, right? He played football. He was like, football is actually the thing that I'm like great at for a while, you know?
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
Yes. Yes. I would add one wrinkle, David, which is also, and I resemble this at times, and I am trying to be self-aware about this at times, try-hardness. Like somebody who really wants to be cool. Effort. Effort. Transparency of effort feels like another anti-cool sort of aspect here. Yeah.
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There's also one thing, Mina, I think, which is that we are, look, the NBA has this like cultural barometer of cool as the piece sort of leads with.
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Part of that is as these things become increasingly corporate, as these things are like, you know, lineages that are increasingly formalized, as David was alluding to, we also get further away from what might be the fundamental tenet of cool that we haven't mentioned yet, which is I think that you have to be kind of anti-authority You kind of have to be subversive.
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So, like, to me, the coolest figure when it comes to the modern NBA that we have been sort of circling implicitly without naming him is Allen Iverson.
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As someone who didn't attend the Around the Horn conference, there have been a lot of tributes, I should say, to a show that we owe a lot to. I don't think I went to an Around the Horn conference call in a decade. So as long as we can skip that part, I am down to refashion what we missed into this. Yeah. Yeah.
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Share & Cool & Tell with David Dennis Jr. and Mina Kimes
The way he played for the Seattle Mariners for Mina Times growing up.
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Just the dolly shot pushing in on Ken Griffey Jr. winking and breaking, shattering the fourth wall with a wink is, yeah.
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Better rods than cones.
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For free? Better rods than cones.
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Share & Party & Tell with Mina Kimes, Katie Nolan and Patricia Mahomes
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre. Today's episode is brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. And today we're going to find out what this sound is. Oh my God.
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Share & Party & Tell with Mina Kimes, Katie Nolan and Patricia Mahomes
I've never been to a party at Mina's house. I was at a wedding recently with Mina, and she got hammered.
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It's entirely relevant. It's the one topic where it is relevant.
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Weddings are the ultimate party.
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They're their own thing.
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Because I was talking to her.
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You're just talking like this.
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They can't stop my homies. No, that's not how I sound. They're trying to go too deep. They're trying to do too deep.
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There was a lot of slurred positive reinforcement now that I think about it.
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Mina, what did you bring us clear-headedly to discuss today?
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When he was the 45th president. Right. And then 47. Yes. Very much in disagreement.
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A reporter asked him at a press conference, why did you change your mind about TikTok?
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I mean, not wrong, not wrong. Also incoherent.
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Katie? Yeah, I'm... You use this. I know. You among us are clearly the most power user.
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Yeah, like Violet loves grilled cheese. Like that's a 99% success rate. But also sometimes she just won't want to eat it.
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Do you agree that TikTok and its popularity is rooted in this idea branding that it's the one social media app where you actually tend to feel good. Like that seems to be, it's joyous, it's fun.
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Right. So like part of my understanding was that TikTok in America was very different from TikTok in China and that we got the version that is far more brain rotting than the one in China. And that to your point about like, is it corrupting its users health in some way? I can see the argument there. That made sense.
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When it comes to like privacy, though, which is another big plank in this sort of argument, it just feels like nobody cares. Yeah. Like, as much as it is on paper a really important priority, nobody cares.
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Including the TikTok CEO.
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to replace it but Mina the whole thing about like kids it's also adults who just I think are like we are so far gone yeah like we're not losing sleep over this and so who's actually fighting for the banning of this thing other than people who are worried about you know the Chinese government from a governmental political perspective
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Katie, like the whole thing about we're going to lose all of this stuff. What would you have missed the most as you were contemplating TikTok being at least temporarily banned?
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Right after this ad.
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So, wait, did it feel like that, though? Is that part of TikTok's whole thing? Is that unlike Instagram where it's, like, tied to some real account? Like, TikTok was sort of a more open field of...
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Yeah, kind of. But that question being of, like, what can you not do?
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get elsewhere like what is this doing that the other places that we're all subscribed to in ways that make us think we're all so far gone on privacy that why do we even care anymore we have so many of these apps like that part like is there a unique argument for what tick tock was able to cultivate i think katie just made it right which is like the idea of like regular people surfing a wave and that discovery you would get from seeing someone who either was just very funny
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Well, it's the opposite of, like, the typical child psychology thing of, like, they like playing with the cardboard box more than they like what's in it. Like, Nino has fancy tastes. Nino is ordering, like, from the bottom of the menu up. He's looking at the prices.
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Yeah, I think that it's hard to say that this is uniquely harmful, even if it is maybe uniquely compromised by the government that had sort of co-signed it and exported it to us. But I guess the question is, would you rather have newspapers or this? Newspapers. This is where I would insert that song that you said you were going to find. You can insert it in post.
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So our producers, using a sophisticated artificial intelligence adjacent technology, did a bit of scouting. They found some faces from around the NFL playoffs and the outer regions they're in. And we're going to see what it's like when some people look like, I don't know. What is this? What's the way I want to say this? What's the way I want to say this?
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Show the first photo.
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Yeah. We're hot or nodding. The coaches as women. The female versions of a variety of men involved in the NFL. Because I looked for that list that Mina had referenced. No one had done it. And so we were the change we wanted to see in the world.
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Yeah. Andrea Reid.
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Does she look friendly to you?
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I think that she has lots of things that she has recipes for that have numbers in the title. Like a six cheese macaroni.
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Did you not know this? What do we got next?
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Here we go.
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Speaking of precocious.
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Also named CJ. CJ works, I think.
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Catherine Jane Stroud. I'm getting high school musical. I'm getting a sunniness in her eyes. I think this person likes to dance in a group setting. I think she's cool.
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Was the hair changed? Was the hair changed at all? Barely.
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What's next? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We know this person, right?
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He did host a reality show.
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That seemed less likable than he is now.
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Field hockey.
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Yeah, part down the middle.
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Wow. Mina's encountered Samantha before.
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What's next, guys? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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Hard to look at.
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This is Senator Elizabeth Warren. She just snuck her into this.
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You're so close.
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Shares a first name with someone in your life.
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It's Dan Quinn.
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That's Dan Quinn.
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That's like a... Yo, Dan Quinn is a MILF. Can I just say that? I'm into Dan Quinn. You can.
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Patricia Mahomes is a little too eager.
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I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm getting eager. Thirst.
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So the reason this is remarkable.
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Like, the thing about that theory is that we didn't superimpose your brother's face onto your body. That's actually what the technology gave us.
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Yes, it is. Hold on. Is that true?
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Yeah, everybody behind the glass, this is just... Mina, this is the AI. This is not... No, it's not.
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It's not.
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Honestly, any Instagram post that's in the second person, I'm out.
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For various reasons, this looks... identical to Isaac Kams.
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Mina said it. And that's the best part.
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Look at him.
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We're getting some top notes of Garoppolo.
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How did it make her jacked? Some Ricky Martin.
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Yeah, it's like you're a Civil War general writing to... I may be, full disclosure, I may be related to some people who do this, and I can't.
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Katie? This is weird. Sebastian Stan also, people are saying, many are saying. But you're a Chad. She is a Chad. A giga Chad. A tetra giga Chad. A tetra Chad. How does this compare to your brother, Kevin?
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Do we have another angle on this that we can examine?
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Incredibly natural.
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Hello. That's Jimmy G. That is Jimmy... Hello. This guy, Keith Nolan, loves and deserves the finest adult film star to join him at dinner.
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Myrtle looks completely nonplussed.
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Happy birthday, Myrtle.
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I'm not just saying this, but, like, if you were to split screen this with Melissa McCarthy, it would be pretty... I think there'd be similarities. Pretty, pretty.
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Pretty much the same.
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Yeah, everyone's compiling a beautifully, intentionally crafted and tattered scrapbook. Yeah. Oh, hello.
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I look... Again, Katie is a predator. We're learning. But... objectively speaking, you know, you want to protect this. You want to protect this vulnerable creature. Bright eyes, whole life ahead of her.
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I think we should probably stop doing this now.
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This was a successful podcast.
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Great. What I found out.
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What I found out at the end of today's episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out, a show about finding stuff out, is that I will never take lightly Katie Nolan's vulnerability when showing us a TikTok. You guys are out of your minds! It's a universally popular TikTok. Sorry, I prefer to save journalism instead of whatever the f*** that was.
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Yeah. This is, this is, this is unfortunately a recurring and genuine phenomenon.
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I gotta go do NFL stuff. Why is there a dancing small white child in front of Kendrick Lamar? I feel like.
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Okay. Very good.
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Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Averoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Dawig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McRae, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tuminello, and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems. Our sound design by NGW Post. Our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo. And we will talk to you next time.
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Like, you're not like... Yes, dear Violet.
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Dear Violet, you never wipe your hands after you eat. And you like drying those same hands on our leather sofa, which your father admits was a terrible investment in retrospect, given your personal disrespect for it.
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I was going to say, you do look like a boombox holding panda. Is that what Parappa was?
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Parappa was a dog, I'm informed.
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Yeah, it had like a winter beanie.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about our kids. Children don't watch any of this.
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Miss Rachel? I'm not familiar with Miss Rachel.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Miss Rachel. This is the cinematic, the Sesame Street cinematic universe.
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Hold on, hold on. Show her the guy.
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Okay, so whenever Mina says this guy looks like you, I start off offended and then begrudgingly admit that she's right.
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So I'm going to Google Miss Rachel, Filipino guy. It's going to come up immediately.
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If I grew like a... I mean hot, Pablo. We got to stop doing that.
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We got to stop inventing hotter me's. We got to stop labeling... I'll tell people to stop making them. The Gary Streisky's of the world. The only person I've banned from this program for being... Pablo.
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I regret this episode already.
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I have missed this. Yeah. We haven't done this since the pandemic. The three of us? I think so. I mean, certainly on this show. I think we've certainly, like, seen each other in life. Yeah, yeah, of course. In which, again, we talk about our kids, and then you show up late, and we pivot to what we're doing.
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Should we start with a very visual game, or do you want to get into some of the stories that I think we're all legitimately into? It's your show, babe. You're the host.
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Oh, that's right. Hello, Katie Nolan, host of Casuals, a new podcast for all of us to like and subscribe.
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I've not been invited. I've merely just been waiting.
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Mina's booked. I am unbooked and unbusy.
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Well, that's now very sad. Katie, what did you bring us?
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How is that a piece of evidence? Oh, no, it's a massive story. It's a massive story. In fact, can I just explain how massive this story is? Because I was looking for the news coverage of Party City's demise, and we did find this.
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The largest supplier of Mylar balloons, disposable plates, other things that we need.
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After 40 years.
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How dare both of you? Yeah, we did though. I don't know where you get balloons anymore.
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Mina, we should do what we always do when we're waiting for Katie to show up. We should do what we always do when she's running late, which is let's talk about our kids.
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I mean, look, there are a lot of articles now where it's like, did you know that only 1.7% of Americans have smiled this year? And it's like, f***, people stop smiling. But this is an article that resonates because the whole notion of people throwing parties for each other has like objectively declined. It's happening less and less. And we are, Mina, you are headed to...
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the party capital of the sports world very soon.
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You gotta invite all the kids.
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My philosophy on the children's birthday party, first of all, either you got to make it under an hour or like an hour or less, or it needs to be equipped for parents to just hang out and talk. And I am so appreciative for these like, what do you call them? Like these like bouncy floored, like, oh, you can have the kids just like run around like tornadoes and shit. And then we're done. Yeah.
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How's Nino doing? What are his measurables?
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And then we're done. But the thing about like, The party as an institution is that it seems like even the young people are wondering. There was, again, the anecdotal evidence here. Six months ago on Reddit, someone asked one of the, quote, saddest questions anyone ever seen on the social platform, which was, quote, did anybody else think there would be more parties?
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And the way we grew up and the movies we see. Yeah, I feel like that's that's. It feels like that is not happening in the way that the TV shows had promised us.
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I love house parties. Okay, so the house party, I should say, because I grew up in New York. You've never really had. Not a f***ing thing. Yeah. Like not a real thing. So much about New York apartments that they're too small to have people over.
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And so my view of like the house party really was just like when I got to college, I got a sense of like, oh, it's what this is what that's like. But I never actually experienced or hosted anything or attended anything like that. Never, never. No one's parents were back in the driveway and we had to rush to, there were no driveways. Oh, that specifically has happened to me.
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What are you feeding him? What's he into food-wise these days?
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There were no driveways.
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I recently did wonder while I was just unable to sleep one night recently. Like, could I recreate my entire living room from memory?
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I could not.
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Well, that's the takeaway from this article is that like if we all threw two parties a year, that's the action item. America would be in a better place.
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Driven by the thrill of speed and the power of extraordinary style, the Tommy Hilfiger Capture Collection combines performance-oriented design with limitless self-confidence. This is more than just a look. It is the uniform for everyone who wants to make their dreams come true.
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Please show me all your vulnerabilities here when we're gathered. Let's treat this as a safe space where you can give me your softest things and we can rummage in them.
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It's very controversial, man. Every parent I talk to is like, man, all these parents have all these opinions.
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What a hell of a tweet. You really had to rush to the internet to get that.
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You might as well be speaking Mandarin right now.
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Es wird so sein.
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Let's zig while others are zagging. Let's take a lane no one would dare to occupy. Let's the three of us right now give the internet, which is forever, an ugly photo.
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That was insulting. That was insulting to me.
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Oh mein Gott, Violett ist nicht weit weg vom Baum, wenn es sich um einen Taker handelt. Oh mein Gott, sie liebt ihre Unikorde. Die Unikorde leuchtet in den Himmel und ich höre Geschichten zu Hause. Oh nein, ich habe ihre Unikorde-Nacht letztes Mal als Buch, dieses Jahr, Spoiler-Alert, Violet, es ist Unikorde-Tag, um mit der Unikorde-Nacht zu gehen.
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Yeah, The Athletic, Diana Rossini and Mike Silver. And forgive me for not knowing who the third person on that story is, but they have dysfunction. Zach Rosenblatt. Thank you. Uncommon dysfunction in the organization that includes some details of the owner, Woody Johnson, consulting with his teenage sons about things.
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mit ihrer Behandlung von Jerry Judys Madden-Rating, um nicht für Jerry Judy zu handeln. Und es ist nicht überraschend, dass diese Anwälte, obwohl sie sehr reich und mächtig sind, super klug sind. Es ist auch nicht überraschend, dass gigantische Unternehmen schlecht verarbeitet werden. by rich people who think they're smarter than everyone else but actually aren't.
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I don't know, Mina, if you're looking at organizational dysfunction chronicled in this story and saying, man, this thing is polluted in a way that even MVP Aaron Rodgers would have been swallowed by because you cannot succeed in a system that has Woody Johnson doing some of this nonsense that has people calling him, what was it, Mr. Ambassador? He made everyone in the facility call him?
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Oh, but let's look at this the way that it actually is. If you think rich people Have giant toys. And you're describing to me kids, teenagers, spoiled brats coming from impossible wealth where daddy insists on being Mr. Ambassador, but is an actual clown. And you have these great riches that they've always grown up around.
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And you guys are telling all of us they were walking around the facility like they own the place. Because they do. This is their toy. And so of course they would act like they own the place. They do.
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Wie die Unikorde fliegt, I like their colorful wings and I like everything about them. Thank you for knowing I love unicorns. Bye!
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When you say the Lakers small family business, obviously that's a silly thing to say, but at least in that scenario, it is the one business that family has had and grown up in and they have no other businesses. In the cases that we're talking about, The team ownership is the thing on the side from the other wealth. The games are the actual toy.
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I'm okay with both the visual of me breastfeeding Violet and also a new show with Pablo and Violet that is called First Taker. Her father took from me first. The Spawn his daughter takes from me now.
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This rich family has a series of players that we can consider human and amazing, but this is the toy as the side business. So when you add the power dynamic to that, Spoiled teenage kids could arrive in a place when they think the athletes are like family pets. You can kick the dog if you're coming home to a house where nobody actually respects the dog.
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And there's the dysfunction in the house where there's anger. Like this thing is a toy to a Woody Johnson that while he lives in the shadows, I think most of us know to be a clown. Es ist auch ein Job, der... Es könnte sein... Ich meine, Gott, sind da andere Beispiele als...
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Who are the sources? Whenever I read a story like this, I'm like, who benefits?
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Ist das so, wie du es sagst? Ozzy? Ja, ich glaube so. Ich wollte nur fragen, weil ich es Ozzy nennen würde.
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Quantum of dishonesty.
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Das wäre das Album, das Stugatz als Musikselektion veröffentlicht hätte. Das Quantum der Unverdächtigkeit.
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Lass uns ein bisschen darüber reden. Denn es gibt eine Form der Konsumtion, die ich in der Unterhaltung nicht genutzt habe, wenn es sich ums Zuschauen handelt. Die Mörder-Ära von Content, in der so viele Leute Mörder-Stuff konsumieren, in der ich nicht gearbeitet habe. Aber wenn du mir Kulte gibst, und du mir Skam gibst, dann bin ich alle drin.
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Ich werde den Bernie-Madoff-Dokumentar finden, ich werde den Bad-Actor-Dokumentar auf Hulu finden, ihr müsst das mal schauen, nur weil ein Typ, der ein Fuhler war, and a terrible actor, ended up getting hundreds of millions of dollars to support his acting and to end up in films.
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And I don't understand how a fool could fool so many people for hundreds of millions of dollars because he had people believing things that weren't true. We are in the era of the scam. We are in the era of being so shameless that you can continue to break the rules and hope to be above them because... Schaut mal, was hier alles passiert.
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Seid ihr bereit, den Risiko für die Dinge zu nehmen, die ihr wollt, und die Anstrengungen, die ihr wollt? Miami ist auf diese Art von Infrastruktur gebaut. Faktiert es nur, bis ihr es erreicht. Ihr seid interessiert, in welchen Teilen dieses ist. In der Brazenheit davon? Denn der Scam im Allgemeinen ist mir immer interessant. Ich weiß nicht, wie diese Leute abends schlafen.
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I don't know how they don't feel like they're always being chased because they've got so many lies and how they have the pathology that allows them the delusion that they'll always be smarter than everyone else and they will not caught. I've got to think that they don't have a fear of consequences.
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I've got to think that there's some sort of blind spot that makes the pleasure not be something that makes them consider the pain.
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I found out that Violet, and I did not know this, because I thought the Torrey family was something that could be trusted. I found out that the lovely Violet, who is bankrupting all my accounts by having my wife buy her gifts, is every bit the taker her father is. And I did not know that before today.
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She looks like an innocent, sweet child, but she is somebody who is selfish and greedy and almost as insatiable as her father.
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How much better are you going to do than the one that you and your daughter take from?
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Gibt es einen Unterschied, ob du den Song wirklich magst?
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That is great that you're still a part of that particular stubborn and thoughtful resistance. I have succumbed there. The internet feeds me. It knows what I want and it has tricked this old man into feeding me things that will forever make me chase the curiosities. But one of the things on the commandment here is thou shall not repost someone's entire Instagram story. So your husband does that.
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You would never repost his story because he...
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All right, I will be thrilled right now to be a passenger on this joyride as we head into the holidays fast friends and professionally fulfilled.
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She doesn't do it for her husband though. I wonder if her husband would be hurt by the fact that she has zero interest in the art he's making. He is a producer. He is a creator. He is an artist and he is making stories about his life that his wife has no interest in.
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Ja, aber sie ist auch sehr überrascht, dass ihr Mann so viel auf der Bühne ist, um seine künstlerische Augen auf Fotos zu zeigen.
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You have a great eye, but my guess is that your wife has no interest in your need for whatever internet applause.
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Because I'm grateful for you guys and I'm not going to be able to talk to you again before the end of the year in all likelihood. We're not going to make content together. And if we're not making content together, I'm sure as shit not going to hear from Pablo, maybe from Mina. But if we're not doing something that airs on Pablo's show, I'm not going to hear holiday friendship from him.
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Ihr habt im Grunde die gleiche Sache gedraftet, nämlich, dass mein Computer mir zu viel Geräusch gibt, das phrenetisch ist. Es ist entweder zu laut oder zu schnell, aber es ist einfach zu geräuschig.
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No, but it sounds... Mina, he's got, I think, you guys correct me if I'm wrong on this, but... I think that you two have a certain brain power that would be greedy about how it consumes. So, of course, Pablo would want to do it at twice the speed that others are so he could keep getting to more and more of it.
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
And if I were hearing that from nearby, it would make me crazy because that's not how human beings speak. I don't even like being near the energy of why do you need to consume information that quickly.
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
But don't you guys find interesting that the stimuli is something that you need so badly that that you need it twice as fast and sometimes the computer is yelling at you too loudly and that we're just filling all the silence with a speed and a noisiness. I don't want... God almighty, I'm complaining about the internet. No, no, no.
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
But what you guys are talking about is just an energy, an information energy that is too... It is...
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Hey, Dan, let's have a toast. Let's connect on a human level as sharers of the human experience.
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
You're asking us to see the art in a butter sculpture? That's what you're asking us to do? Don't speed through it. Let it melt slow.
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I do have a draft pick. My draft pick is, thou shalt offer a little insight as a treat so that I don't feel like all I'm doing... is consuming things that are empty calories, that when I put down my devices and put everything away, I have nothing to offer the world as learning. Any little bit of insight learning, I would like to be a part of, if my empty calorie experience consumes me.
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The 2024 Internet Etiquette Draft: Share & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
No, I understand. You have a real friendship. Here, he's sucking at the metal art teeth of Make My Content. Let's follow my curiosities into the abyss, Dan. Let's spend millions of dollars on me to make butter sculptures. Come on, Dan, more me.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I was convinced my thing was broken at that point. I'm losing it. The questions are so easy. They're all so easy.
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Because... You're still on the Daily Doubles, you're talking.
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It wasn't like a lack of confidence. I'll be straight up with you guys. I don't watch Jeopardy. I'm not a Jeopardy person. So I did a little bit of research into betting strategy, which comes up at the end. I did not ask anyone about Daily Doubles. And I do think if I had asked someone, a Jeopardy person, they would have explained to me, you should bet a lot.
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So it was actually less like, oh, I'm so afraid I get this wrong, although that's a little bit of it. And I think like I just didn't prepare for it at all. Like I didn't think through, hey, this is your opportunity. These questions are easy. You know all of them. Establish a lead. My brain like hadn't even – thought through Daily Doubles at all.
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I've never heard of you being... Katie told me, like, try to find them. I didn't think about, like, okay, what do I do if I get these? And I do believe if I had... Somebody had told me, hey, you should bet a lot, I probably would have bet a lot. So it was really, like, a lack of preparation on my part.
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Yeah. I've been told to hunt them.
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I was so pissed walking out of there because I felt like I had, I just strategically didn't prepare for the right things and I didn't think through it. And I was really mad at myself.
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Pablo, it's your show. You're the one who wants to talk about this.
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I don't think I dominated to the point where it's textbook choking. Like, I don't. Like, I couldn't, I didn't buzz in. Like, that's not, that, the guy had a lead. You know, I choked on the Daily Doubles, and I think that's where, that's why that was the hardest for me to watch, because that was my fault. But, like, I couldn't buzz in.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Like, I knew pretty much every answer, and I just couldn't buzz in. And that's not choking.
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Yeah, I'm saying in those moments, but not over like, I don't think I choked away the entire game is all I'm saying. I think I choked on the Daily Pulse.
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Yeah, skip. Sometimes you lose. Because you didn't prepare well enough. That's not choking. Choking is when you're the overwhelming favorite, you should absolutely win, you should be dominating, and you f*** it all up. I did make mistakes in big moments.
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That's the biggest question. I actually wish I had done more prep into the actual gameplay. I should have f***ing watched Jeopardy.
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What Coach Kimes... I watched a little bit. I watched like a Katie, like I watched an episode of Celebrity Jeopardy just to understand because it's a little different.
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I have a f***ing full-time job. I was during the middle of the football season, and I had a one-year-old baby. I only had so much time to get ready for this game show.
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This is the maddest I've ever been.
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Oh, by the way, we taped these back. I was the only person who had to go back to back. I taped that right after my first episode. So I'm like freaking exhausted. A little bit of a competitive disadvantage if you want to know.
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The thing I regretted was not researching daily doubles. It's the only thing I regret.
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I think he would probably have lost in Celebrity Jeopardy.
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Well, I was mad at myself, but I've transitioned away from being mad at myself to being annoyed by this line of questioning.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Pablo obviously loves making content out of our lives. You both do. It's something you clearly have in common.
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I know about... The Balkans. I know what cities are in there. I know what cities were wracked by conflict 30 years ago. I absolutely could have deduced this if I had just used simple context clues and geography. But at this point, I was like, I'm going to lose. This is over. I was so flustered by Triple Jeopardy that I just panic picked.
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And I was so worried about getting the betting strategy wrong, which was actually kind of the one thing I did prepare for. And I did get it right. I thought I got it wrong in the moment, but later on, I realized I got it right.
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Are we really going to compare this?
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Yes, Pablo correctly guessed penny as the coin that people throw into a fountain. Really, truly.
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Anyways, yeah, so I was like super flustered. At home, I'm watching this, I'm screaming like, what the f*** are you doing? Like, you know, but I was, but I did do the betting right. And that was actually some comfort because I was, I actually talked to folks about this. Yeah.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I did my math wrong.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
No, I didn't do the math wrong.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I did it right. No, no, I did the math right. I did the math right.
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So in the moment, I thought I didn't do it right.
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What a heartwarming story.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
So, I was... Okay, now I'm so glad. See, this actually is a great window into my mind here. Because watching it, yes, at the moment I was devastated and I'm so mad at myself for not... Because I know geography. I know history. I was just like, my brain was whatever. But my process was correct there. So, I'm actually...
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Like, I feel a lot better watching how it played out, Pablo, because I did bet the exact right amount, which was something that I looked into.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
So this was something, like, I prepared for this and then talked to you about Daily Doubles. You know Hayes Davenport? He is a guy who went to school with Pablo who I'm friends with.
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Super funny dude, has been on Jeopardy. So I asked him for advice, and this was the one piece of advice he gave me. If you're in second place... and you're in striking distance, meaning you can jump first, only bet enough so that third place can't jump you. So if third place can't jump you at all, you bet $0. That dude had just enough money to jump me, right? Which sucks.
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But the reason you do that is because you're not going to win unless first place is wrong. So you don't have to... And first place is going to bet enough to not get jumped. So... All you have to do is worry about third place. And that's what I did with my betting strategy. $1,000 was enough to beat third place, right? If he had either gotten it right or didn't get it right.
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So in the moment, I was like, wait, did I do this wrong? I was actually more upset that I did it, but I did it right. Because if third place had been wrong, I would have won if we had all been wrong. Because first place had to worry about me. Did that make sense?
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
We're not hearing a lot of friend Dan today.
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Well, he's like an extremely wealthy tech entrepreneur. So, you know, I don't think he's really the underdog of a lifetime here. But yeah, he was like stunned afterwards. It was the moment you could see he was stunned. Like he walked out and his family was like, what just happened? And Sean Gunn, I gotta find Sean. We gotta get a drink. We were both just like, screw this. I hate this show.
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No, we love it. But like we were just like devastated. It was a great television moment. It really was. And I didn't watch the entire, I didn't watch the episode. Obviously, I've only seen this, but I have to think it was probably one of the more entertaining finishes. It's similar to Pablo's finish, right? Where it's like dramatic, come from behind.
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Oh, yeah, I remember, because she didn't bet. Yeah, right, right, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, no, I was nodding in agreement. I'm also not a fan.
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Yeah, I'm actually glad Pablo...
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mercifully wrap this up but you made me watch that in there because like it was a it was a little bit validating to feel like i didn't screw the entire thing up so uh you know i i would love another shot at it i'm still upset with how i handled the daily doubles in particular uh and losing my cool a little bit with the buzzer but uh at least at the end i did the math right
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That's really all that matters.
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Listen, yeah, I would have been more mad if I had done the math wrong, and once that was, I was like, all right, you know, because that would have just been embarrassing.
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I don't remember saying that at all. Look, you can only learn from our failures and also try to identify the things we actually did do right in them so that we can build off of it. That is my mindset.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
How weirdly sassy was that?
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Dude, I was exhausted. I had been at that set for hours at that point. Like I said, this was my second taping. I was so drained. I had had like three pieces of salami for lunch. That pose is a woman who was just ready to go. It was so late at night, by the way. I was so ready to go to bed. I really think, though, covering the NFL...
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I swear to God, this is going to sound like tortured, but it has like better prepared me to deal with failures in my life. Like the things I'm saying to you, oh, like you got to figure out what you did well so you can build off of that. You know, every rep, you got to just like have a cornerback mentality and reset and think about and like then also be honest about yourself when you failed.
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You got to focus on process. I don't think I would have said any of that stuff when I was younger and I was like equally competitive and allergic to failure. So you know what? Growth. I look at this and I see growth.
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In October. It took me about three months to get over. So I'm really reliving a lot of trauma here.
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The other thing that's important to note is we're in the semis now, right? So a lot of the real, the most celebrity of the celebrities have been called at this point.
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Am I the only one who sees A.J. Soprano looking at a young Dan there?
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It's been a process getting over it, honestly. Let's just say the words, you raised $50,000 for charity, focus on what matters, were said to me a lot in this house by my husband over the next seven days. It's so right.
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And by the way, the charity, I just, for anyone who's watching and has any interest, because I did talk about it briefly, it's called the Sealand Neighborhood Homeless Coalition here in Los Angeles. They do some of the most amazing work of any nonprofit I've ever witnessed. So Hayes, who we talked about, was really involved in them as well early on. So if you guys are looking to donate, go to
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I mean, $50,000 is pretty, especially like kind of when I got to visit them and hear about what the money was going to do, it made me feel a lot better about this. You're getting me at the right time. If this had been raw, if this had been like in the weeks after, would have been, I mean, I think I was pretty defensive and angry, but it would have been 10 times worse.
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Yeah, he knew the film festival. He was like, oh, my wife and I have been to this film festival. I was like, so mad about it. Guys, wait. Shocking news. Are you ready? Are you seated? Crazy news just broke.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Aaron Rodgers has not made a decision and says he doesn't owe it to anyone to move on their timeline.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
That would be the most embarrassing thing, if I lost to him in Slumberland.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
What an alternate timeline of, like, the universe.
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I, too... long for that alternate timeline because it would mean that right after this ends, I don't have to go on NFL Live and talk about Aaron Rodgers saying he hasn't made up his mind yet. which I'm going to have to do for the 45th time in the last two years.
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I think that it is unique because people are always like, oh, it's political or whatever. I think it's unique to my job because I have to do it so f***ing much. Do you have an equivalent of that in your guys' lives? Like a thing where you're just like, I'm compelled so often to address this exact thing. Must I do this?
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That doesn't even make sense. I feel like it does. It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry. Logically, that's a terrible analogy.
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Yeah, very competitive. This is why I can't bring myself to watch this episode of Jeopardy. Without watching it, I know that how competitive I was probably started manifesting itself on the stage at some point in the final third of the episode when I was about to crush my buzzer in my bare hands like a lemon. Just infuriating. I could not buzz in to save my life.
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Well, first of all... I was winning. We were showing questions where I couldn't buzz in, but I was very frustrated, obviously. Because here's the thing. Okay, so I'll just get right into it. The thing about Celebrity Jeopardy is, as you have seen, if you're watching this or if you watched it, the questions are easy.
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So by the time you get to the second round, most of the contestants know the answers to all of the questions, and it becomes a buzzing contest, right? And the thing about the buzzer... is you have a window to buzz in. If you buzz in too early, you get locked out. And because I don't have good hand eye, clearly, I don't play video games. That might have been good practice for this.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I just kept getting locked out and then losing my shit. So it becomes a lot about like quick twitch. Sorry, I'm in draft world.
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It's really a hand... And the other guys, again, to their defense, because I think they knew most of the answers, certainly the guy Gunn next to me did. He was getting frustrated because he couldn't buzz in in the first round. So it's just, it becomes like a buzzing contest. It's very frustrating.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
The emotion you're trying to identify is actually relief because I was like, thank God I didn't miss the football question because that was my worst nightmare going on this show is that there would be a football category and that I would lose the category, thus giving ammunition to my haters for decades.
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Thinking about the Roman Empire for 600.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
He was disappointed in me. I could feel it. I could feel it. Can I say something? I think Ken wanted me to win.
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We had a personal connection a little bit. He's from the Seattle. He's a big Seattle sports fan. We had like bonded a little bit about that.
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Well, he's great. I could feel his disappointment in my cowardly, bulls*** daily double strategy, and I was disappointed. You could see it. I mean, that's just the disgust.
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Yes. Yeah, you could literally see me, when the question comes up, be like, you idiot.
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Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
And then when I was in that situation, I panicked like a word I can't say.
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Yes, you want. I was hunting. We were all. So this is another thing. In the first game, I was hunting for them. In the second game, we all were. So, you know, everybody's kind of playing in a different way.
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Yes, I was nervous I was going to blow my lead. I was like, I'm in control of this shit. I've been dominating the category.
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not about the belief that I could do math correctly, just like the fear, like what if this is the one question I don't know and I bet like $4,000 and suddenly I no longer have a big lead.
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Because it's risk aversion. It's like, oh, it was even more so than I think the fear of losing it. It was overconfidence in my ability to keep buzzing in and dominating, right? Which again, to go back to the NFL, that is like how dumb coaches think. Like, oh, we're going to get another chance to drive the field again. You never know, right? And it's just... It was, like, idiotic. I don't know.
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That was, Pablo, by the way, the one thing I didn't want to rewatch because the buzzer thing is frustrating, but, like, I felt like that was a little bit out of my control. That was in my control, and I f***ed up.
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Oh, we knew a different subject. I'm tired of this. Hey, Pheebs.
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Advanced Animalia for $1,200. Answer, Daily Double. I will do... 2,000. Okay. You dumb coward!
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The face of someone who knows she's an idiot.
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I prefer his viewpoint, but I feel like his viewpoint is getting engulfed by all of us feeling some form of the hopelessness that Mina's articulating, which is even when I do something good, I cannot enjoy it because of everything that happens in the aftermath that feels like it's poisoned.
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People say that that's weird around here. Is it weird? Is this something I should be doing in private? Is this something I should be doing in the bathroom? Lotion on the forearms.
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But that's the strategy, though, right? Like, if you flood the entire space with a bunch of things that are shameless, rotten, and awful, we can't keep up. You whack a mole here on one, and there are a dozen more over there. Wait a minute.
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Generally speaking, I would say that fans and executives prefer humility, even if it is false, to arrogance, even if it is truth. So you just said that Deion Sanders is son and all that comes with that. And I'd like to explore that.
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that for a second because we're talking about one of the most interesting athletes of my lifetime, a guy who shows up at his last college game in a limousine with a top hat and tuxedo and a grade point average of 0.00 because he hasn't gone to class and is just telling everybody, I'm here for the money. I'm here to change sports. I'm here to be a mercenary. I'm here for my talent to carry me.
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And I'm here to buck the system and fight against the cultural repressions of football and America. And my son isn't a cornerback. He's a quarterback. And when you say arrogance at the positions we like it, not so much at quarterback, not so much at face of a team, voice of a team. You're allowed to be publicly arrogant. Generally speaking, the most popular quarterbacks, Tom Brady among them,
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You don't get arrogance. You get, get the questions away from my locker. I'm going to be boring on purpose. But we've got a new breed of quarterback coming into the league. We've got a cultural and generational shift at the position. And I would ask you guys, how do you think the average NFL executive who's meeting with the son of Deion Sanders,
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whose confidence is earned, who has been in a lifetime of being built by this particular father to play the most important position in the sport, my guess is that he is going to do things his way, and they want to knock that out of you as soon as you get there. You're not in charge, kid.
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Are the two of you in consensus on this, though? Are you guys saying that there is not a single thing from the hygiene realm that can be done in public that wouldn't disgust Mina because she believes these things are intimate privacies?
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I wonder under what circumstances you have someone growing up in the home of Deion Sanders as a football player and not being confident when he's gone to the top of the draft and when Deion just did something that we haven't seen, right? To go from an HBCU to finding yourself with two of the top five players in the draft and the Heisman Trophy winner.
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I understand why it is that he would be supremely confident, and it sort of bothers me that the people he's interviewing with would see that as a knock or turn that overconfidence into something that becomes unprofessional. Maybe he is unprofessional. Maybe he is immature. But I want my quarterback to be really confident.
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I would say that that is arriving at your confidence exactly the opposite way that Dion did. He was better and faster than everyone else. He stacked successes on top of each other.
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And he had a child who now is able to wily and grit his way to certain successes that then feed that confidence and that belief and make him believe more than anyone else, including the people interviewing him, that he is going to achieve at the next level, that it is his birthright.
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How about put on makeup? How about put on lipstick? Put on makeup.
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Hold on. Hold on, though.
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I mean, I don't know how many preposterously confident preteens you guys know, but I think awkwardness around being 11 and not knowing whether you're going to have friends or not, I do believe it's possible that the football construct is so different from what the Sanders family construct is that no matter what situation Shador walked into that wasn't just false pretending to be the quarterback voice they wanted them to be,
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might have been looked upon poorly in any context because if he's got a smidgen of arrogance, we'll find a way to criticize him. But I assure you they could have criticized him if he had come in as that meek 11-year-old and said, are my teammates going to like me? I don't know how it's going to go.
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I'm sure they would have probably found a way to criticize that as well as meek and not strong enough.
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A New York Times story that feels like Joaquin Phoenix in Her, except the Her in this case is human, and she fell in love with chat GBT. GPT, excuse me. I think I made it GBT. It's GBT. PT and it's got 300 million users and I thought this was actually interesting during our epidemic of loneliness.
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While this would be really easy to judge, one of the quotes in here that I found most interesting was someone saying, this might be the future of relationships. Instead of men or women trying to change their spouses, you just program something into your computer that allows you to make a perfect partner that's not real and
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And you could do everything from sexual fetishes to be a neglectful boyfriend. What I'm aspiring to is a neglectful boyfriend. And so I found interesting that the addiction went from 20 hours a week to 56 hours a week and then passed for love, as I say, in the age of our loneliness. I want to judge and laugh at this.
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Not kind of. She is a never nude. Never is an absolute. It's not kind of. There are no diluters. She showers wearing what she's presently wearing, including the microphone and the earpiece.
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I found it stark and interesting that somebody said that the future looks like this, that they quoted an expert saying that there's going to be a lot more of this, not a lot less.
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Oh, but Mina, when I say loneliness epidemic, you could be surrounded by people and still be totally lonely. I think a lot of people find themselves in that position right now. The part to me that was the lane that was unexplored that the artificial intelligence is feeding is wherever it is that she might have shame or feel like a significant other would judge her.
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This allows her to be her maximum self. And if you believe that keys to loving, I don't know what you guys think the ingredients are, but understanding and acceptance are somewhere in there. She's giving to this thing something she's too ashamed to give as intimacy to her partner. And so that seems like an interesting lane for something artificial to
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to occupy so that you could get addicted to it because it becomes the equivalent of porn, right? It becomes the equivalent of porn and a relationship with porn where you're just finding that there's a judgment-free zone that you wouldn't get from necessarily your husband.
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She requested neglectful boyfriend. So realistic. She requested. She requested neglectful boyfriend.
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I've realized... Okay, you said that. Wait a minute. Pablo, just for a second, okay? Look, I know that she's a brilliant person. I know that she is a wildly creative thinker. No, but just for a second. This is not new. The only thing that's different is... It's not human. That makes it really new.
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Like, I'm not going to be in a world where it's normalized for you to look at me and just say, ah, it's not a new thing for people to make connections with things that are intimate and loving and not human.
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I got caught in the same place. I'm like, where's Mina going to take us here? Look, an old-fashioned bookstore where there's a shelf of erotica.
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You're right that Twitter is running the government and an overgrown high school child who is interested in attention and power is accruing it. All of this stuff is offensive. All you're doing is trying to correct all of the imbalances that we already have between the United States and the rest of the world with just this little bit.
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of money for us, and of course, what it ends up becoming is we want all the money, we want to isolate, we want to be our own country, but starving children is one that I feel like all Americans can agree, send them peanut butter.
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Hello. It's nice to see you. It's been too long. We haven't done this in too long. What happened? How many months has it been?
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And it's paid for. Like, this part's important, right? So, Mina's pointing out, no, not everyone agrees that America should be sending peanut butter for malnourished kids outside of America. Fine. But I think everyone can agree we shouldn't be wasting that... peanut butter and nourishment if we've already paid for it.
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The reason she's saying this is so overt is, like, at this point, you're just actively participating in cruelty if you want to be wasteful instead of helping the malnourished children.
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Are we filming? I've been putting lotion on my arms the entire time.
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He's articulating something that feels hopeful and Mina is articulating something that feels hopeless. And Mina's hopelessness has been earned by the number of things like this happening at a pace that don't seem to have strategy behind them. So I...
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I was going to go with the color brown. Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp?
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Turns out that termite farts contain methane, and termites apparently produce 1-3% of all of our methane gas emissions. So termite farts are causing climate change.
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Football season is here, and there's absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. You're placing bets, you're setting fantasy lineups, you're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part. Cooking. Well, thanks to DoorDash, you don't have to worry about that.
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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?
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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car. Get him. Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.
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Well, why is it called the letting of a pet?
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Oh, like the sound maybe? I'm just trying to understand the... Yeah, don't try to make sense of it.
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No, it is just farts, but I, we have a little bit, we don't have any real husband and I parenting disagreements yet. Our child is too young to make difficult decisions around, right? Like when it comes to actually discipline and things like that. But he does do something that is concerning to me and I fear will breed bad habits, which is whenever my kid farts, my husband just applauds.
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And I think now he thinks it's something, At this point, it's just all Pavlovian. Everything he thinks is just in response to what sort of reaction it engenders. And I'm worried he's going to come away thinking this is a good thing.
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Yeah, it was so crazy when that happened, too, because Steve Sagnolo, the chief defense coordinator, we always talk about how great he is, right? But I also think, and it manifests itself in the creativity and timing and strangeness of some of these pressures, but I also think that he almost sequences them
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like an offensive coordinator like how we think of kyle shanahan he's calling this run to set up this you know play action pass later and then he's going to use the same formation and i think spagnola does similar things because on that drive the previous play they zero blitz them the bills had the right call as a screen to amari cooper just unfortunately he tripped and didn't get the first down and it really looked like they were going to zero him again and i think alan thought he would have the shallow cross and they just looked totally unprepared for what ended up happening and it was a reminder that
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the Chiefs defensive coordinator not becoming a head coach has been such a pivotal part of this dynasty.
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I mean, I am really excited about the Ben Johnson hire in Chicago because I don't think and Dominique and I kind of disagree about this sometimes. I don't think it's like a knee jerk. You got to hire the hot young coordinator with the best offense. I understand that sometimes that doesn't work. Sometimes you want more of a CEO type coach or defensive minded head coach.
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But watching that offense in Detroit the last couple of years and then watching what Caleb had to deal with this year I'm really interested in seeing like a more quarterback friendly offense for him. And I think it's going to be really successful.
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So how many teams can you say that like when when people are like, hey, I'm really hopeful like this Jags coach is going to really get the most out of Trevor Lewis and people go, excuse me, it's the Jaguars. We're like, what percentage of teams can you actually pull that for?
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I know. He came out in that press conference. He was like, buckle up your seatbelts. I was like, all right, a little bit of a strange image because you're a Jet and you're countering turbulence if you have a seatbelt. But then he was like, this is Jets football. And I'm like, Aaron, you know what Jets football connotes, right? And he said it like it was a good thing.
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I think smart in a lot of ways. Like with all these coaches, when they're hired, I always give this sort of cowardly caveat. I don't know if he's going to be a good leader, but it's true. We really don't know with a lot of these guys if they're going to be the next Sean McVay or – insert at an Urban Meyer.
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Well, we knew about Urban Meyer, but I think with Carroll, the advantage you have is like we already know the guy is like an unbelievable leader. He is beloved by players. I also think, you know, he has a proven track record with the young quarterback. He's very, very smart at coaching defense.
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The only concern I would have is if you're the Raiders and you're drafting a young quarterback, how long is he going to be the head coach? But other than that, I thought it was a pretty good hire.
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People do that. How many times can you not do that? I guess, like, the four remaining playoff teams? I'll make a list. I'll get back to you.
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Well, is that the question? I think he's very old and maybe there's an old timey definition of that term. This has actually happened with Jerry Jones before where he's used a term and everyone was like, wait, what? And then it turned out to be something that was like,
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What a great, though, like microcosm of the Dallas Cowboys in general, right? Like stuck in the past and two people are too afraid to tell the owner.
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I think. First of all, the coaching matchup is really fascinating. Remember in the previous, or a couple of questions ago, when I said, oh, I can't wait to see this young, brilliant, offensive mind, Ben Johnson. And I really do think that that's going to work out. But then you look at the Super Bowl, and it's like a bunch of old dogs.
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I mean, minus Kellen Moore, it's Andy Reid, Vic Fangio, Steve Spagnuolo. old, brilliant coaches. And I think that that's cool. I think the battle between Reid and Fangio in particular is really intriguing to me. I think you've got one team with the best quarterback, and then you have one team that clearly has a better team in the Philadelphia Eagles.
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That's interesting to me because it always sort of tests the importance of the quarterback position. Not that Patrick Mahomes' team, I think he has good players, but I'm just saying like the Eagles are on paper the better team, but I suspect a lot of people are going to pick the Chiefs just because they have the better quarterback.
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Teams you can't dismiss anymore, Commanders, Bucks, Lions. But people don't do that with the Giants. People, like, when someone says, oh, it seems like, you know, the Shitter Sanders is going to be great there. People aren't like, excuse me, sir. It's the Giants.
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Glory Hole would be a great name for, well, I'm sure that there are bars named after it, but like a stadium, like a college football stadium, like, you know, come to the city.
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The Glory Hole, where legends are made. Come on by, you never know who's on the other side.
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Well, the way you phrased it is insulting to him. But the actual intent of the question is, how many people rank higher in their positions across the league than you would rank Jalen Hurts, quarterback? And it is not actually about Jalen, because I think everyone believes he's at minimum a top 15 quarterback.
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It's really about the Eagles being an all-star team, which is what you're alluding to, right? Multiple positions on the offensive line, they have top...
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some top one but top five players aj brown is top five receiver dallas goddard maybe top five tight end is a little bit out of it at this point saquon barkley top one or two running back that's ridiculous so you're looking at least like four or five players dan who are like all pro pro bowl level at their positions
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That's such a good, you're so good at this. That's such a good question. How has first take never done that?
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But the comparison to Miami is so great because it shows you it's not really about the quarterbacks. Like the fact that the Miami Dolphins offense fell apart without Tua doesn't mean that, oh, my God, Tua's worth every penny. Although I think you certainly see his value to the offense in some ways. It shows you how horribly constructed the offense is, right? I mean, you watch that offense.
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I've seen Tyler Huntley have success with the Baltimore Ravens as a backup quarterback. It must be this insanity. bagels that one year. But you watch them in the Miami Dolphins and you realize, man, Miami, did I say Dolphins? Dolphins offense. It's so fragile. It's so reliant on the fact that the quarterback throws the ball quickly. That's not a good thing.
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It's great that the quarterback does, but you don't want an offense that completely falls apart if you can't have a quarterback who throws the ball in less than two and a half seconds.
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I think you're right. I'm going to walk back. I think you would go with Hurts. But I don't think anyone could do what Saquon's doing behind that offensive line.
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I don't know their faces that well.
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Who's that? I don't need to do it. I don't know who this man is. That's Dallas Clark.
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He looks like Tim Allen. I was going to say the same thing.
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That's, I know the actors.
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You don't know the actors. Is this Roadhouse?
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Dallas something would be my guess.
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I've never seen Roadhouse. Good game. That was fun.
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I mean, do you really have to see Roadhouse to guess what Roadhouse is about?
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I think you could make a poll. You could poll three people in an office and say that it's a representative sample of America. I was thinking about this, though. Who was it? I think it was Jim Brown, so it must have been CBS, who was thrown into some new show they have with Morris Chestnut. And he was like, Fox, you won't believe it. He's a doctor. And I'm like, but he's also...
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He's also a detective.
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Yeah. Why not?
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Why? Just because Finn?
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I think it's pretty clear the dolphins shouldn't be anywhere near cold weather.
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This iteration of it.
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You're trying to get the show to send you to Spain?
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No, I just wanted to thank you guys again for mentioning my show. If you're in Los Angeles, it's next Monday. We still have some tickets available. Double your tickets will be donated to charity. It's minapodlive.com to get tickets for details. We got merch. I'll be excited to meet you, hang out a little bit. So, yeah, Tom.
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Yeah, a couple of my favorite pods slash friends will be there with me. Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Rigg from NFL Daily. And then my friends who are Eagles fans, Chris. So we'll see how this goes. Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald, pardon me, from The Ringer. 100% of proceeds go to Wildfire Relief here in Los Angeles. Wow.
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She feels bad. It's so hard to watch. I think he's going to be a good coach, but yeah, it's a tough watch. Duval. Oh, stop it.
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I can't find the story that you were talking about, Dan, regarding royalty and blaming farts on others, but there is a story of Queen Elizabeth apparently farting and then blaming the horses.
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should be let's start in baltimore what do we know about the availability of safe flowers Saturday night against the Steelers hey Nina get it girl go back one more time there.
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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?
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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car. Get him. Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.
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I think it is kind of boring for a stretch and then really heats up at the end.
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That's how I would say it, yeah. Which is always a hard sell for people. Like when you're recommending a TV show and you're like, the first few episodes suck or season one is bad. It's always... You can always skip the pods. The pods, like, it's so boring. A lot of pods. A lot of pods this season, yeah.
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The best episodes always, though, are when everybody meets each other around like nine or 10, like all the people who were rejected or didn't make it to the tropical location.
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So like when they have the big meetup. Yeah.
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What city is it this season, Mina? It's Minneapolis. And that's the other thing I found interesting. It's like very, very Minnesota. Yeah.
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I haven't started that. That has been recommended to me. Weirdly, my husband decided that this moment in history was a great time to start The Man in the High Castle, which is... Do you know what the premise of that is, Dan?
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It's based on, I believe, a Philip K. Dick novel or short story collection or something. And it's basically what would happen if America lost World War II and the Nazis won?
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What would happen? That would be better.
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This is a little old, but if you haven't watched it, Dan, I think you and Valerie would like Black Doves on Netflix. Did you watch that?
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Oh, it's really good. It's Keira Knightley. Ben Whishaw is one of my favorite actors. He plays Paddington. And it's just a six episode limited series. It's about like spies and double crossing. It's weirdly kind of a Christmas show. It takes place in London during Christmas, but it's really, really, really entertaining.
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I had an idea, a pitch for 007 from years ago. Maybe it doesn't really apply right now, but the idea derived from one of my favorite movies of all time, which is Edge of Tomorrow. Have you guys seen that with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt? One of the best movies ever made.
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So he's great in it. But Emily Blunt is fantastic as like the badass super soldier. And I thought after I watched that, that she should be 007. She's British, too.
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From their perspective, you mean? I think it makes sense. I think... The only question I had as to whether or not they would stick with Darnold was if they had any concerns internally about JJ McCarthy, his health coming back from, you know, pretty brutal injury, what they're seeing internally. I had some conversations in Indianapolis that led me to believe they're pretty confident about him.
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They feel good about... Is there music? Is the music playing? Are you playing the fast music?
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No, I'm not gonna go faster. This has already been- You've gotta respect the music. What do you mean? No, I don't respect the music. Stand strong, Mina. Do not respect the music. I don't respect the music.
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I was thinking about this at the Oscars when like the, you know, costume people are up and they start playing the music and like what it takes, the mental fortitude it takes to just continue like blazing past it. And I thought I'd be pretty good at that because I do it on this show all the time. So I am not surprised because I think they drafted McCarthy where they did for a reason. They like him.
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I also think that, you know, the benefit of having the quarterback on that sort of rookie contract is you have all this freed up money to spend on things they need to spend on, like the interior offensive line. It doesn't make sense to me to have, you know, it would be more than $40 million. I think Sam Darnold's probably going to get at least two years guaranteed of over $60 million.
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So I'm not surprised the Vikings didn't. I think it was the right move.
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It depends for whom, I guess. Unnecessary for viewers? That's a good question, but...
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So what's... Not wrong about throwing. I think that it's very debatable whether or not the top prospects have to actually do that kind of thing. But the reason they're there is for the meetings and the medicals, Greg. So the teams all in one place get a chance to meet the guy that they're going to invest in their entire future in. And also the medicals.
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This was actually the original purposes of the comment was really the medicals. And that's why it happens every year and will continue to happen.
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It all depends on whether or not he's willing to hold out because the sense that I get from being there, and that's why we're there, by the way, is just to gossip essentially for a week. The Browns have no intention or interest in moving on from him. So this could get really ugly if he is actually willing to hold out. And that is an open question.
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It would cost them a lot, but if it was for actual freight of draft picks, which I haven't heard any packages being thrown out, they should do it because they're a rebuilding team. They should at least consider it, pardon me, if it's a lot, but I haven't heard any rumors that any team is willing. I just think other teams don't find it to be that believable at the moment.
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And again, as with all these guys, it's all about his willingness to make it messy, Dan. And like, it's easier said than done. I mean, one of my first stories ESPN the magazine was that Drell Rivas, who was the king of mess, right? And I came away from that. And of course, one of the greatest, moneymakers this league has ever seen, and a guy who literally won, right, every time.
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And I came away from that story believing the reason he was capable of that wasn't his ability, but his absolute, like, the steel he had in his personality, not caring about the influence of media, fans, family members, teammates. Derral Ruvis truly did not care.
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And I think for Myles Garrett, it's going to come down to whether or not he has that same sort of personality, which he might, by the way.
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Uh... Schultz has me... Oh, no, I blocked him. Ooh, people are going to make a thing about this. I should have said that.
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Yeah, so I'm a little bit biased. My favorite part of that encounter was Jeremy Fowler, who I work with, just trying to disassociate in the background of the photo. I don't know if you guys noticed that. He looked like that Marco Rubio in the couch, just...
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So we're team Fowler then, okay.
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Yeah, team Fowler, yeah.
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Desperation on both sides.
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I think they're going to roll with Wilson or Fields again. I was surprised. I mean, it ultimately didn't matter, and maybe this is why it shouldn't have been surprising, that they weren't more aggressive about Matthew Stafford the way the Giants were, and the Giants absolutely were.
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Like, they really wanted to take a shot at that because I feel like the only path that the Steelers have to actually getting over the hump last year would have been to take an aggressive swing at Stafford. But, you know, it obviously is debatable whether or not that possibility even existed.
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I saw that. Uh... He looked like he enjoyed it a lot. First, I'll say that, which I was surprised to see the level of enthusiasm you had to bang that drum. No, I think it's okay. I've thought about this, Dan, because I've never been asked. The Seahawks have this thing called raising the 12th man flag, and I have wondered, would I do that? I think I wouldn't, but my job is different from yours.
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I'm football specific. I just feel like the Homer allegations would be too intense for me. I think you're fine. You're not a hockey reporter.
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Wait, is that the sound he made?
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I was just about to say, I do not want to think about the other context in which Dan makes that sound.
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Play the sound again and focus on Jessica's face.
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I was on NFL Island with him yesterday.
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He was in Hawaii. He went to Disneyland too. He had the misfortune of going to Disneyland on the one day in Los Angeles it rained.
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I think it's an interesting one because I do think that it might take some movement on their part with the quarterbacks. I do think I know there's going to be interest in a rookie. To me, they seem like the Sam Darnold destination. So if I had to make a prediction now, I could be wrong. I would say Sam Darnold plus a rookie who's not one of the top two guys.
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The Titans dream, how they would love for this to play out is that one of the, so I guess the Giants or the Browns panics and tries to get to 1-1 to take Cam Ward. Everybody I've talked to, To a man has agreed Cam Ward is QB1 in this draft. There's several teams that are interested in him.
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So for the Titans, the way I view this draft, and I think most people do, there's two truly, truly elite players, Abdul-Qadir, the pass rusher, and Travis Hunter. If they can just stay in the top three while maneuvering down and grabbing picks, they can still get one of those two players. And I don't think you can go wrong with either of those players.
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So upsetting.
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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?
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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car.
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Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.
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Yeah, he's the same way. We have to put, if I have any food, not even like unpackaged food, packaged food, it has to be on a counter high enough for him to not get to. We have had some disasters in the past, gifts of chocolate left on credenzas, emergency trips to the veterinarian because of his absolutely insatiable appetite. Lena, have you ever taken Lenny to get his picture with Santa Claus?
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We did, yeah. Obviously before I had a child, an actual child. I think it was about five years ago in New York. I have the picture somewhere if you guys want to see it.
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Wait, so Dan, are you like thinking of Santa like he's like the Pope? Not that the Pope doesn't have him, but is there like a vow of chastity involved in being Santa Claus? Because Santa, they don't have kids, right? The elves aren't their actual children.
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Let's get her reaction. Are you guys sharing these or no? Would you like me to graphically describe what I'm seeing here?
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The famous Chris Jones. You guys remember that moment? Yeah. God, I look like he's got a whole thing of mistletoe stuffed in there. I mean, we are talking. God. Yeah.
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all right well it's a very um clearly skimpy tight pair of red shorts that this man is wearing and what you are seeing looks like someone literally took like a thing of jingle bells and just put them behind some red cloth um
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About the size of two limes, maybe? Just trying to be linear for the audience.
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No, this is... What's wild about this, though, Jess, is, like, this is every photo. Like, there's no photo and no pet parent received a photo or actual parent that doesn't have this based on the image I'm seeing. It's not just like he was in the wrong position at the wrong time for your dog. This man corrupted an entire day of... people's lives.
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Like the kind that you cut in half to like salt, you know, like when you're making like a margarita and you're just squeezing a little bit of lime. Not like fully mature. I can't believe I'm describing this in such vivid detail. Lime might have been... You know, like the little ones, the cheap ones that are kind of hard at the grocery store that come in a bag.
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Not like Florida fancy limes. I guess that is a distinction for you guys locally.
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I just care about your audio audience. I'm not just here for YouTube. I'm not just here to make funny faces. I want to make sure they get a full visual picture of what we are all looking at. And it is very graphic.
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I could see that. Yeah, I could see that with the positioning of it and the slight difference in shape of the two lumps.
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When you texted me, let's talk about Santa balls, I really didn't think, I thought it was going to be like a football-based Christmas thing or something.
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Don't expose this man's identity, Tony.
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Hey, this whole thing is just so Miami. I will say, though, in L.A., the Santas are amazing because there's so many actors in this town. It's actually like a very hot job, right? If you happen to be an old man actor in L.A., Christmas time, chance to make a few bucks. It's very competitive. And the Santa that we take our kid to in Glendale is...
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well, he's obviously better than the Santa because he's not sexually assaulting, like, you know, visually with my eyes, but like, he also, like, it's really, really, really hard to get a Santa job out here, I think.
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I'm just so relieved that this has happened after Halloween, so we don't have to see Dan try to replicate this photo.
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Yeah, I mean, I thought I think the Steelers defense, the way that they handled Lamar, the way they played him, the way that they coordinated their rush to prevent him from escaping the pocket and the coverage downfield. Frankly, he was like one for six on plays that he extended, which is very unusual for Lamar Jackson.
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And to me, that speaks to how well they married the Russian coverage and just how sticky that coverage was on the back end.
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I think you might be right in part because of the Detroit Lions' ascendance. Because if the Lions weren't where they were, I would say that the Niners are still in this because after the Lions, I think it's pretty equal. I would put the Eagles obviously above them. But yeah, right now, I don't see this Niners team competing with this Lions team anymore.
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And then the other thing you're just seeing, I mean, we were asked, what's wrong with the Niners? Are we all mad? Does Kyle Shanahan stink? This is attrition, guys. This team has made it so far in the playoffs every year. They have lost talent. It's very hard to stay dominant in the NFL like that year after year after year if you go that far in the postseason.
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It's exciting. I haven't seen the final version yet, but you guys know I'm a Lisa Stan, so it's pretty exciting for me. I love The Simpsons, so I've actually gone back and revisited some of the old episodes, and they really hold up.
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It hasn't happened yet. It's December 9th. So check it out. Sorry.
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No, no, no. They prepared a lot of stuff beforehand, the Simpsons theme or whatnot. But it's Bengals Cowboys, which I actually think is great for us because I feel like it's like a game that, shall we say, people might be seeking additional entertainment. So, yeah, I'm excited.
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I know they just lost to the Bills. And I think right now the Chiefs, the Bills and the Ravens are probably about on the same tier for me in the AFC. But I also think the Chiefs will probably be better in the postseason than they were in the regular season, as they have so often been in recent years.
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Um, yeah. So I think one thing I find fascinating about the Chargers is there's this impression that they're this like run first team and they're really good at pounding the Brock and Greg Roman's your offensive coordinator when actually the opposite is true. They're not very good at running the football and they become very pass heavy.
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Greg Roman has like let Justin Herbert cook and I think it's going to be a difficult matchup for this Ravens pass defense.
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I think they have a ceiling that makes it possible because Jordan Love, he can make every throw. He can make incredible plays. The problem is he has struggled a bit against the blitz and the turnovers. But when that offense is clicking, they're as good as any in football.
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And I think the quarterback we saw really heat up in the second half of last year, so it's entirely possible we might see the same thing this year.
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It's been years. God. Maybe like six years ago?
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Tommy DeVito, I guess, is, you know, I mean, obviously they're doing it because they don't want to trigger Daniel Jones's injury guarantee. It's not a particularly appealing, I mean, when we're going to look at all the jobs, and I'm assuming Brian Dable. Speed it up. I think it would have been the same with the Giants. I don't know. Brian Dable would be an excellent Santa Claus.
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Is Brian Dable the coach who would be the best fake Santa Claus in the NFL?
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I'm about to do it on this show, honestly. I'm thinking about it. It's Giants questions. I do it all the time. I do it all the time.
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I think he's played well. I also think that the infrastructure in Denver is fantastic. It's a really good offensive line. Sean Payton is calling a hell of an offense right now. But Nick himself is playing better, and I think it's all working.
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No, they're not very far. The offensive line has just been such a nightmare for them. But the defense is still really, really good, and I still believe in the quarterback.
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I guess the Jags, maybe they need like a total culture revamp. My concern is I saw a report that he wants to stick with Trent Balky, which I think would be a huge mistake if that's true.
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Yeah, I'm trying to think of something to say. Like, this organization is a circus. It's a tire fire. It's been the case all season. I don't know what learning about the owner being somewhat of a meddler changes any of that. It certainly doesn't absolve the GM or Aaron Rodgers, the, you know, whatever. So...
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Yeah, I guess it's obviously a poorly run organization, but I don't think it's all entirely on Woody Johnson. I think a lot of people bear responsibility for that.
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No, but a lot of them, I think, are more involved than people think and have, you know. I mean, so the biggest nugget that people kind of focus on, and it is crazy, is that Woody Johnson suggested that Aaron Rodgers be benched, and people were shocked. Well, Aaron Rodgers was not benched, so that suggests there's a limit to his meddling there.
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And I believe that owners offer more crazy suggestions all the time that aren't taken into account.
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Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what's going on with the plants?
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You look like you're about to ask me to, like, check the oil on my car.
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Or, like, come over and, like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.
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Yeah, it's been an absolutely wild 24 hours. I am in my friend's guest room right now. There's a travel crib behind me for the YouTube audience, if you're wondering what that is. And I don't know. It's just been absolutely surreal, guys. I was flying back from Newark two nights ago. when the fires really started kicking off on Tuesday night.
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And we got the plane and there were some news reports at the time, but I think everybody kind of assumed because we were being allowed to fly and land, it couldn't be that bad. And then you could see the plane sort of apprehend what was going on. And people were finding out on the plane that their houses, their friends' houses were burning to the ground. And overnight, my husband
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And my infant child came here because our house is pretty close to the second fire on the east side. And then last night, another fire sprang up pretty close near here. But luckily, they were able to put it out pretty quickly because the winds had done so much here in Los Angeles. But it's just been... an absolutely surreal 36 hours or so.
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Fortunately, things seem to be turning around a little bit, largely because the winds have died down. But I just, I mean, my son's friend's house burned to the ground. Everybody in their neighborhood lost their houses. It's just friends, family friends, people we know just up in flames. I've just never seen anything like this in my life.
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People in L.A. are obviously very acutely aware of the fire risk. It's not new, particularly in the Malibu Palisades area. But I think to just have that visually manifest itself so immediately, um, the dryness combined with the unusualness of the winds.
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And, and, and that was, I mean, we always get these Santa Ana winds, but this is, I don't know if I could say like once in a decade or whatnot, but the strength of them, the eroticism of them, that was the craziest part guys. Like on, on Tuesday, by the way, I flew by the fire and it literally looked like Mordor, like Lord of the Rings or something, but, um, it, which was just surreal, but,
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I think what the craziest part was on Tuesday, seeing the fires burning and growing at this amazing rate, watching the local news and hearing them say, we can't fight this right now because we can't put helicopters in the sky because of these winds was just stunning.
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Because I think with, you know, natural disasters or any kind of events like that, we're so used to authority figures just being able to fight them. But we were talking about something, these winds that nobody has any control over. And it was just absolutely heartbreaking to see that.
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Yeah, it's been a really fun month, I guess, until now for me, both at ESPN and doing some project outside of ESPN. The Simpsons game that we got to call was one of the more fun experiences of my life as a longtime Simpsons fan. Working on Christmas was pretty surreal. And now we're in the playoffs. Like I said, I was in Newark. I was on the East Coast.
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doing nfl live from bristol um earlier this week and it's been a whirlwind i suppose and we're supposed to do by the way nfl live in la on monday but as you guys i'm sure are aware it's pretty touch and go right now they're considering moving the game to phoenix and i think we won't find out um for a second what happens there with the rams game
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The coolest thing probably was doing the Simpsons game because as part of that experience, I got to know the Simpsons showrunner and one of their writers. And we were going back and forth all up to the game with just jokes and references. And that was just such a cool experience for me personally. But doing the Netflix game, it was a ton of fun.
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You know, it was really unusual in that you're working with a bunch of people you've never worked with before. And I think it was... It made me realize, oh, wow, doing NFL Live now for five years with the same crew, you don't get that many opportunities like that in television these days where there's so much.
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People always talk about the chemistry, but beyond that, just kind of that inbuilt trust and comfort and working with each other, knowing when people are going to talk and whatnot. So it was a novel experience with me to kind of be, I guess, you know, confident. I feel bad comparing it to like an all-star game because that implies that I'm an all-star.
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I don't want to make that implication, but it was, it was really like, okay, we're teammates now.
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And the other thing that was very wild about it, Dan was again on NFL live and all my shows, I usually have a lot of time to talk, but I realized on these pregame halftime shows, you don't have as much room setting aside the fact that I was deeply aware of the fact that I had 45 seconds to give a take about CJ Stroud after Beyonce,
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So, you know, over 20 million Americans were just absolutely disappointed to see my face. And I try not to let that trickle into my brain.
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You know, the game, I just got so wrapped up in the game so quickly that I kind of lost sight of the context because they were just quarterbacks. I love watching and I was really interested in them and I got kind of locked into that. So, yeah, I think that's the fun thing about working in before, during and after games is like. So there's that energy.
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That's what's different from doing the daily studio show, right, which I love doing. But when you're before and middle and after a game, it's more closer to the action and you're just sort of tied up in exactly what's happening on the field at that moment.
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It looks like Lady Gaga at the beginning of The Star is Born where she gently peels her eyebrow off and kind of falls in love with her in that moment.
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I voted for Lamar Jackson. It was extremely close to me. It went down to the wire. I got into it on my podcast with Dominique. Lamar Jackson, I just felt like this is really what he did this year was just too hard not to vote for him.
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I don't know, man. I mean, I don't think people appreciate what he's doing, not just relative to, obviously, it's crazy, the yardage, but the fact that he is a historical anomaly in that his age and the amount of carries he has gotten, the fact that he's still producing at his level, this just does not happen in the NFL.
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Josh Allen, I would say, has a better offensive line. The Ravens offensive line is pretty good. I think his group of pass catchers is underrated. People are acting like James Cook is some schlub. He's actually been one of the better backs in the NFL this year. And Derrick Henry, I would contend, this is just statistically true, benefits more from the presence of Lamar Jackson than the reverse.
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Lamar Jackson, by the way, statistically, when Derrick Henry is not on the field, is the best quarterback in football as well.
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Which part? The Tyreek Hill of it all or the constant? I mean, the Dolphins, please explain. They have to take the run game seriously this offseason or they're going to have a similar outcome next year.
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Turns out the human beings on the field matter. Offensive line matters.
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I do care. This one is hard because their owner is just, like, steering the ship and, like, going in every direction and constantly pressing the red button to fire people. I mean, they have a number one overall pick. Problem is, cover yours, Mike's not a great quarterback draft. So I do think they're probably going to take quarterback.
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No, I don't think so. I just think the Steelers' offense has just been too bad as of late. Obviously, the defense has given him trouble, so I think it's going to be closer than that 9.5-point line.
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The talent up there with the highest of the highs, the unpredictability is what makes it hard to project and I think to rank him amongst wide receivers. On any given play, he could do the coolest thing you've ever seen or the dumbest.
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No, we're not doing this. Can I say something, by the way? Speaking of encouraging, I'm hearing the music and it's not phasing me at all. You might want to retire this bit because literally it's in my ears and I don't care. It's not affecting me.
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I think that the Eagles are better, but that the Ravens have a higher ceiling.
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I'm going to go Lions there, just because what they've shown on defense the last, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
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I don't think so. I think he has to bounce back. He's a very streaky quarterback, though.
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A very young team that looks like a young team that has a lot of talent, great coach, good quarterback, but some flaws.
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It's both, but I think that the latter has led to the former. I think he'll bounce back next year.
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Philadelphia, but it's close.
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It's great to see you guys.
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He bullied my aunt's brother in high school.
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I'm Pablo Torre, and this episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out is brought to you by Remy Martin 1738 Accord Royale. Exceptionally smooth cognac for all your game day festivities. Please drink responsibly, because today we're going to find out what this sound is.
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I do want to do a thing in a second here where we are going to draft the coolest athletes across at least the three major sports in the present day. So we're going to put this to the test. I'm going to seed that in your brains.
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We don't have to do it just yet, but we will answer and test David's theory about whether we are just afflicted with clinical old head-itis and cannot possibly actually consider a young person cool. I also want to add a wrinkle as we assess the criteria here for the committee of our audience to judge us, because On-field play, right? So are we saying that that is clearly not separate and apart?
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It is involved in the calculation, right?
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Yeah. But so just the greatness, though, right? Like, what does that get you? So Michael Jordan, I think, is a very reasonable answer. A very popular might be the number one answer when people think of the coolest basketball player of all time, because he both is a marketing vehicle was unprecedented. for the obvious Nike, et cetera, reasons. And every other sponsor thing, right?
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For our generation. Also because when it came to be the most pressurized moments, he had the greatest legend and arguably the greatest performance. So there's that. But then we get to, for instance, like to discern a bit of the lineage when it comes to Kobe, right? I'm like, I think there are lots of people who think that Kobe's cool, but I see an imitation of Michael Jordan.
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And I'm like, okay, I'm going to dock points for that. I think Kobe was, as great as he was, a legendary tryhard by the time that he became the guy who was branding all of his Mamba stuff.
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Which is to say that I think the answers to the draft, as we go around in some sort of order, David, there's a, I know it when I see it definition, as opposed to like some strict criteria for better and for worse.
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By the way, this is how David realizes, oh, shit, I could have not done the conference call.
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Should we get this draft going?
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I think we should do coolest player per sport. For the three biggest sports. So we each pick one. So we're each going to draft our pick for who we think the coolest is. And if someone has drafted them, we cannot take them. And we will show our results at the end. Because I love a draft chart results.
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Oh, I knew the whole time. But, you know, hey, I was like, you know, being the good steward. Look, as we will get into, I'm just the cool guy. I'm Bart Simpson, you know, just skateboarding, spray painting stuff.
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He has the nickname.
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Counterpoint. Counterpoint. I don't think Joe Burrow saying stuff is cool. I don't think Joe Burrow says cool stuff. I think he does cool stuff on the field.
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Hmm. So Lamar gets. OK, so I'll go next second. Lamar has the anti-authority thing going. The fact that he doesn't have a conventional agent for better and for worse. I don't know if that's cool in the classic sense, but it's sort of like a you to the way that like football and business tends to operate. So the case for Lamar is strong. But I think I'm going to go Jalen Hurts.
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I remain waiting for the problem. Again, I grew up thinking that's what Gould looks like. Have you heard him in interviews?
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That's what I'm thinking about.
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Okay, that's uncool.
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No, I don't think we have one yet. He's going to go through that tunnel. Oh, my God. Hold on. There's a reference I'm going to pull out and Google.
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First off, that is a show that I only know, of course, because of the tunnel. I don't know what else happens on the Jennifer Hudson show. I assume good stuff happens. I just know it as the tunnel. I did see recently Randall Park go through the tunnel. If you recall him, Asian dude.
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And he proceeded to like do a mixture of, we'll show this in post, a mixture of like sort of like popping and locking where I was like, I would aspire to do that and not be nearly as good and
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Well, we did last gather to do an entire episode about the X-Men animated series reboot.
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Right. I don't know. I did see Usher go through it on skits. And I was like, damn.
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The NBA. David, we're going to snake draft it. Go the other way.
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Which I think is cool. Don't get cooler than that, guys. I think that there are some people out there who think that the three of us are cool. I think there are more people who would laugh at those people.
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By the way, an awesome at a microphone does not give a fuck. It's incredible.
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And the greatest of all time.
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So, Steph, not even a consideration for you? Like, you're like, no, not even… No. Like, because Steph is the ultimate example to me of playing style…
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Yeah, I think that's fair. Influence, he's been so influential.
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Well, that brings me to my pick, because my pick is Ja Morant with an asterisk.
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I think that's, look, the unsaid thing in this article. It's right there for him.
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It was, everyone was ready. I had a friend who worked on, it's part of the Nike campaign that they were doing for Ja as all of this stuff was unfolding. And they had to blow it up and make it less cool because they had to make it so that actually Ja Morant was more palatable. to an audience that expected him to be a massive up who loved playing with guns.
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Like there is a line beyond which you go too far. And as much as the anti-authority thing is part of it, like he, at a certain point, you gotta know when to just stop. And that's where it became untenable. I think John Moran is fine, guys.
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Probably like third grade.
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It's more it's more like, can you stay on the court?
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Yeah. Wow. Mina, what are you—you're picking college?
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I was going to say, Mina has a clear thing for who she thinks is cool. It's looking into a camera.
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Samesies. I mean, Jalen Hurts, guys, is clearly a beautiful person.
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A beautiful, objectively beautiful person. Okay, so baseball. Are we ready to move on to baseball or any other takes we want to get off? One side, actually, one side brief postscript take about the NBA.
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Because, David, you were hinting at this before, and Mina as well, like, as much as the current generation of NBA players might be starving for cool in the way that bloggers and others will approve of, if you go through, like, is LeBron cool?
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He's a literal corporation who is also trying very hard at all times. But if you just go through the list of like Kawhi Leonard, LeBron James, James Harden, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant... Paul George. I'm going through just like all NBA caliber guys. It's not like we have been dealing with a bumper crop of the previous generation where it's like, man, those guys check all the boxes, you know?
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I mean, I think the question.
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Mina goes first and there is a question that I'm wondering if she will ask out loud as she makes her first pick.
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He's also really good at bowling, and I want to unpack whether that makes him cool or not. Because he is like a professional caliber bowler. He's bowled a perfect 300. Also, another wildly attractive person.
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Are we saying definitively, because Mina brought us to the team in question, like Shohei Otani, not cool.
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Does he have a crippling gambling addiction? You know, these are ongoing mysteries. Yes.
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He is enormous. Yes.
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Right, right, right, right. People are in awe of the sound that the ball makes off his bat. People are in awe of his physical stature. People are in awe that he can do any of this. He also is, I think to the earlier point, like so private that it creates this aura of its own.
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This is also where I need to remind people, Mina, that David Dennis Jr. is a former beer pong partner of his classmate at Davidson, Steph Curry. So he is both observer and participant.
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Like being less online on some level actually does in this era. Yeah, it creates the intrigue that I think rates as cool. I think I got to go with, I'm looking up his age right now to invalidate David's theory about how we can't really respect young people as we continue to draft some young people. I'm going Ellie De La Cruz.
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So he's not like, again, household name necessarily, but he should be if you like baseball in any vague way. He stole a zillion bases. I think it was 25 and 65 was the first shortstop to ever do it. And that dude playing in the Cincinnati region. I'm like, yeah, I think that feels like conventional. Like that's just an all-time athlete doing cool stuff. And I select him.
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I think there's kind of a… There's almost like a parallel to like sneaker sales to me. Where like the guys who are too large…
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Is Nikola Jokic who... Oh, Mina's shaking her head no immediately. He doesn't care. He's not effortful in the way that we expect athletes to care. But he's also clearly... Yeah, I think he's one of the most skilled players in NBA history. Why isn't he cool? Big man? Is it the big man thing?
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So I want to recap what we've done here today. In the NFL, the three coolest players as appointed by the three of us. Number one, Mina Kimes took Joe Burrow. Number two, I took Jalen Hurts with, in parentheses, the one next to it, with Kangol. Kangol is essential. And number three, David Dennis Jr. took Lamar Jackson. What did we do for the NBA? Who remembers what we did? Oh, David, right.
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But David Dennis Jr. was the original Splash Brother. This is a fact. This is real. This is not an exaggeration. Also, I am now banning officially Nick Wright. I just want to say, you, Nick Wright, you're off the show. We can get into that at a separate time.
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It was David Dennis Jr., number one, Aja Wilson. Me, number two, John Morant, asterisk. Number three.
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My picks are great so far. Number three, Mina Kimes, Dame Lillard, looking into the camera like f***ing Jim Halpert or Randall Park. And then baseball, number one. Mina took Mookie Betts. Number two, I took Ellie De La Cruz. And number three, David Dennis Jr. took... Shohei Otani.
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Damn, how did David out-Asian us?
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I wound up with a Kangol and potentially future gun charges, which is suboptimal, I guess.
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At the end of every episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out, we go around and say what we found out today after having a, I would say, a pretty in-depth discussion of cool. Mina, what did you find out?
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Cool person. Actually, extremely cool. What's his name?
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What I found out, David, is that Mina also showed up to today's episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out with multiple clips. And so there is a clip from, I believe, one of the reality shows in question that Cortez could not be more excited about. And I have no idea what this is. So I'm about to find out right now.
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Well, Mina, also because he did this to you today.
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So I guess I should. It's been whispered into my ear because I didn't realize this until Rob whispered it. They can't see each other at that point.
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Because there is a wall that's the whole blind.
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And so I am told now, reliably, we have the reveal when they can see each other.
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Oh, no.
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Right after this ad.
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Yeah. Both Mr. Irrelevant, I dare say.
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All right, fine, let's start the actual show. So the thing I wanted to start with, guys, is, in fact, a case study in Cool. And it started on Substack, which is not the coolest place for things to start. But there's an anonymous author who goes by the handle of Ox Portello, which is, I believe, a reference to Inherent Vice. Already setting sort of like the highbrow kind of illusion standard here.
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We know we're harkening back. When we asked David to read this, David, your initial review of the piece was, in brief?
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It was a very much like... All cultures matter. All cultures matter. But the thing that got this going viral around the NBA internet, at the very least, was one statement in particular that I think is consensus. And it was articulated thusly, quote, For as long as I can remember, the NBA has served as a cultural North Star. These NBA playoffs portend a crisis of cool."
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And he goes on to analyze Jalen Brunson and Tyrese Halliburton and Shea Gildress Alexander, categorizing them as uncool, which I would like us to discuss. Anthony Edwards sort of sticks out as, quote, the exception proving the rule.
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of cool, that actually he is somebody who is so alone in his coolness that the others who are variously, I would say, try-hard meme lords who seem to be imitative of previous imitations even, there was a bunch of that. And so I just want to start, Mina, by actually articulating What do we mean by cool? How do we even define this?
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Because yes, it is one, I believe, white blogger's opinion that the categories flow as such. But I do think there's something he's getting at here that's worth talking about.
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But he was almost too cool for basketball. I mean, he was a quarterback, right? He played football. He was like, football is actually the thing that I'm like great at for a while, you know?
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Yes. Yes. I would add one wrinkle, David, which is also, and I resemble this at times, and I am trying to be self-aware about this at times, try-hardness. Like somebody who really wants to be cool. Effort. Effort. Transparency of effort feels like another anti-cool sort of aspect here. Yeah.
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There's also one thing, Mina, I think, which is that we are, look, the NBA has this like cultural barometer of cool as the piece sort of leads with.
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Part of that is as these things become increasingly corporate, as these things are like, you know, lineages that are increasingly formalized, as David was alluding to, we also get further away from what might be the fundamental tenet of cool that we haven't mentioned yet, which is I think that you have to be kind of anti-authority You kind of have to be subversive.
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So, like, to me, the coolest figure when it comes to the modern NBA that we have been sort of circling implicitly without naming him is Allen Iverson.
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As someone who didn't attend the Around the Horn conference, there have been a lot of tributes, I should say, to a show that we owe a lot to. I don't think I went to an Around the Horn conference call in a decade. So as long as we can skip that part, I am down to refashion what we missed into this. Yeah. Yeah.
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The way he played for the Seattle Mariners for Mina Times growing up.
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Just the dolly shot pushing in on Ken Griffey Jr. winking and breaking, shattering the fourth wall with a wink is, yeah.
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This is my favorite part about adult parties. If I'm the organizer is watching people from different worlds speak to each other. And like, yeah, I enjoy that.
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I have in the past. I'll get like a room at a bar. But we do house parties for me. A couple years ago, before I got pregnant, rager. Absolute rager.
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That's not how I sound. Damn slur. No, no. If anything, I am incredibly nice and overly complimentary.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. What? That's a horrible impression, first of all. Secondly, if anything, I was like, Pablo, you're doing great. Everything's great.
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Um, so it's not one story. It's obviously just more like a broader news story that's being written about a great deal. But I am curious to hear your guys' thoughts on the TikTok ban, which as of this recording, TikTok is available because the president of the United States signed an executive order basically delaying the ban, the ban, pardon me, um,
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It's unclear to me, even after reading about 20 articles, what is legal and what's not in terms of whether or not he can actually stop it, because this was something that Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court.
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By the way, like just to for folks who haven't followed, I guess I should lay out the reason why Congress did so is this belief that a foreign government shouldn't control like a major U.S. media outlet. It's less about actually propaganda and more about their ability to collect information. And you can collect a whole lot of information on people based on TikTok usage.
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So I am not overconfident. I am enjoying this period where we can take him to restaurants while he lasts, while it lasts, pardon me, but I have no compunctions about it going on forever.
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And the crazy thing that happened too is like we live in a world in which Congress doesn't agree on anything. The Supreme Court doesn't agree on anything. It was like unanimous, right? So both sides of the aisle were like, yeah, this seems bad. The Supreme Court was like, yeah, this is probably a bad idea. So just that's the backstory for people to know.
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We do have bigger problems.
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Well, for me, that was kind of like, in some ways, my experience of this story over the last week was, first, I was a little bit put off. I'm like, put off by the fact this was like the biggest story in America on a moment when things that I felt were much more significant were happening, other executive orders, other things.
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But, you know, I think as I've kind of read more, or not read more, but thought more about it, I do think setting aside the legality aspect of it, I would like to hear your guys' thoughts on... I don't know whether you think it's like a bad or a good thing, I guess, if it goes away.
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There's one thing I have noticed with our kid. He just likes food when it's better. Yeah. Like, he vastly prefers restaurant food. When we take him to a restaurant, he eats everything. And then when we're home and Nick, like, makes him something in the moment, like, grills some salmon, he will eat it.
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Well, that's the other side of it. So yeah, I think most of the legal case seems to be about the kind of data collection side. But the other side is like, you know, the Chinese government is involved in these things and they have influence over their companies. And there's been a lot of studies about whether or not that's affected the actual content put out on TikTok.
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And I found a lot of it to be pretty convincing and incredible, by the way. I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about like, just... Setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or a net bad? That's kind of what I'm thinking through.
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And Pablo, you hit on something which is, I think, a point in his favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media. I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my head. head at once, one of which is, I think, Katie, you're right. There is a lot of actually lovely content on there.
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When we are in a hurry and we'll, like, reheat stuff, like frozen meatballs, he'll, like, be like, mm, mm, nah, nah. Which is... Funny, because, like, I guess that means he's, like, an adult, right?
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I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things. So it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content. It's there, right? But I am still so profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures.
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Your point is dictated not by facts, but by an algorithm. It's by what's popular. And that's where I really feel like it's largely a net negative. And that to me kind of outweighs the good things that I'm seeing.
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sometimes unintentionally, or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have found a platform for elsewhere. And I think that's all true. My problem is sort of that it had become... sort of overtaken by, one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just, you know, shoveling shit.
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And the fact that, you know, it has replaced a lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepared for. But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo. That's, you know, all of social media is a news source. So I think it's just it still does great things, but it also became everything for people. And I think that's not a good thing.
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I think he's going to play something. Oh, fair enough. Do you want me to play it? This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else. You guys are out of your mind.
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I want to be clear here. I do not believe my child has a uniquely sophisticated palate. I think, yeah, like, have you ever, like... So how do we feel about, while we're on this topic, when people do like IG posts about their child, but like long, like, like, dear Cassandra, you're four today. I can't, I can't handle it. You love early Miles Davis and grilled cheese, but only with Gruyere.
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I'm so confused by this game.
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Like once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women. Right. And then it just immediately turns into who's the hottest.
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Candy. That's probably Candy Reid. I'm not getting a candy vibe. Yeah.
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Andy Reid famously makes like a six cheese macaroni.
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Oh, my God.
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Looks the same.
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This is almost identical to male CJ Stroud.
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Catherine Jane.
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This just looks like C.J. Stroud.
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A little. A little bit. I mean, just turned into a curl. Pablo, this is a thing on Instagram and TikTok that many, that women use, where all, it's like a filter is where you just get lashes. And that's what happened here, right? It's like, it'll have, they always have names like light makeup. Or flawless filter.
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And then you put it on, you're like, whoa! Yesified. But that, this just looks like CJ's job with lashes. Yeah. What's next?
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Okay, so this brings me to an interesting memory that I feel like everybody has forgotten, which is, do you remember when Travis Kelsey shaved his beard and America was like, is he actually hot? I don't remember this.
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And I feel like, why are you trying to make your child sound like sophisticated, right? Just,
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Nobody remembers this. One, like, this is pre-Taylor Swift, obviously.
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This girl, yeah, this girl pointed out in front of everyone that my Doc Martens were not real Doc Martens.
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The stitches are the wrong color. Damn. What stitches, Katie? What stitches?
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It's not.
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For various reasons, perhaps it's our shared DNA. Perhaps that's the reason. I've done this, when we did this back with HQ and we did the male version, I looked a lot like Isaac, I remember. I don't think I would look like my brother at all.
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I see Jimmy Garoppolo.
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Thank you.
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That's a big win for you. Thank you, guys.
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Some are saying. Looks a little bit like Henry Cavill. Wow, that now looks a lot, now that I'm looking at it.
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What if the technology did it to Myrtle, too, and you just couldn't tell the difference?
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My main objection is just the, like, the positioning of your, it's like making your dating profile. I know it sounds weird for your child where you're trying to make them sound more interesting than they really are. Like, if they were honest, it would be like, dear Nino, like, you love shitting on everything. You are passionate about loud noises, right?
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She looks like my primary rival for valedictorian in high school. We're both doing, you know, extra studies to try to jack up our GPAs.
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The worst is when you play one that you're like, this is so funny. And then you play it in front of a group of people and they don't. I did a whole episode of that.
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Okay. What about this then? Listen, we've all, no, don't do it.
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I gotta go guys. I gotta go do NFL stuff.
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I found out that Pablo did not go to a lot of parties. And did I really find that out? Because I could have guessed it. All right. Bye, guys.
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Bye, Mina. Love you.
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You like bright neon colors.
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Wait, Katie, there's a guy in Miss Rachel's crew who looks exactly like Pablo. Show her the guy. Okay.
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He's a Filipino guy.
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Okay, so I think this article is interesting. I will say, the party city is closing as evidence.
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Who has ever thrown an adult party and gone to party city? It's honestly purely the Provence of children's events and goodie bags.
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Yeah. Super Bowl week is a big... Big party week. For me, I am definitely bringing down that average because I don't go to many parties anymore. I don't think you guys speak to your own experiences outside of children's parties, which are beginning to happen, which is a whole separate thing. Children's parties, though, I got to say, and Pablo, you can speak to this more.
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They're really adult parties because I guess in L.A. is such. Everybody now has to go to every party, Katie. That's different. So when we were kids, it was like, ooh, like a big, like who's invited?
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Now everybody's got to go to every party. Everybody gets a trophy. Yeah. Which means every weekend you just see the same parents and you sit around drinking beers at like 3 p.m. watching your children just like rip each other apart. And I got to say, I love it. My husband and I were talking about this. We were like, this is the dream.
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We're just sitting around making small talk with like a set designer from Pasadena, having some, you know, hard seltzers, eating their home state tacos. I love it. But the Super Bowl thing is a big deal for me because I don't go to like late night drinking type parties. Except for like three times a year at the Super Bowl, the Combine and the draft, which are unfortunately in succession.
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So it's like a very intense. It's like the closest thing in my life to like those Alabama sorority rush weeks where by the end my liver is like because I'm so unused to partying that hard.
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How's Nino?
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Huge still. I keep waiting for him to get smaller, and it's not happening. In fact, our latest weigh-in, he actually went up to 93rd percentile.
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Yeah, I grew up in a major house party high school culture. Not that I was invited to many of them.
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Speaking of that, they're just here for the house. Once, one weekend, when I went to Washington, D.C. to be a presidential scholar— My parents went with me. And my brother famously threw like the biggest house party our town had ever seen at our house. And it was like... The kind of house party that people talk about for years, like da-da-da. And he—so my brother was a lot closer than me.
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He took photos of everything in the house. He hired professional cleaners. So we come home, and it's like nothing has happened. So my parents come home from this, like, nerd thing I went to with me, and we're walking through the house, and my mom, sometimes she's just like, something's off. And she noticed like the smallest, tiniest difference. Something had been moved.
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He's into everything, which is great. But he eats really what we eat. But... I am not trying to be cocky about it because I have heard too many horror stories of, and you can weigh in here, obviously, babies who were like, parents who were like, oh, our child loves like, you know, Sichuan food and like escargot. And then all of a sudden, they turn two and they only want chicken fingers.
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And my brother cracked immediately when she called him out on it.
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I do throw myself a birthday party every year.
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I'm so glad you bring that up because so much of the discussion about these two platforms and the exodus and what people are looking for at echo chambers is about politics.
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I'm sorry to interrupt you.
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Certainly there is a political element to this, but Pablo, you're speaking to the other thing that has made that app fairly and significantly less user-friendly and unpleasant. And I think it's not political at all, which is the engagement farming, which is that people are now using it to make money in the lowest... It is all either rage bait, engagement bait, misinformation.
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It's the lowest common denominator. And one thing that has been nice is when I opened the algorithm on Blue Sky, the viral posts have just been funny. It's been like good jokes. It reminds me of Twitter back in the old days.
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And not it's not they're not political jokes. They're just like weird, goofy observations, mundane things. They're cleverly written. And that's what I want out of social media. I just want to be entertained. I also I will say this, though, I have really and I hope it lasts and I hope that the moderation tools keep working.
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I have really missed hearing from people who actually watch and listen and read what we do because I have not been able to do that now for the last three years or whatever, ever since Elon Musk took over, a little bit before that, to be honest. And it really has been quite gratifying. And again, maybe I'm a loser for wanting to hear from folks and wanting to talk back to them. But I missed it.
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I missed that part of social media. And it is fun, however short-lived it'll be.
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A real human who speaks to me like a human being who has objections to my thoughts or wants something different out of my show, I will absolutely hear out. The problem is on the other app, it's people being paid to inflame, paying to pick fights, who are just, you know, they're not there for anything being done in good faith. And the people who are, their voices are being ground out.
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When he puts his glasses on, you know it's going to be a serious story.
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I don't think sports media is more negative than it was 5, 10, 15 years ago. I just think that per our earlier discussion, the people who run social media accounts for sports media understand that putting out the most divisive, controversial, whatever, things that are said... There is more likely to engagement. And I think athletes, agents, which climate are more likely to see those things.
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So I think there is if there's any if there's veracity to sort of what they're both claiming. And again, it's a little bit muddled here. It's centered in the fact that social media is amplifying negativity as opposed to the underlying commentary being different from what it was in the past.
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You don't think 15 years ago, I have seen some really toxic segments, really, I mean, the discourse around LeBron James in particular, going back to the decision, like, I don't think it was gentler or more celebratory back then, personally. I would also note with LeBron, uh, I don't think this is Skip Bayless. Just Skip Bayless, Dan. It bothers him that everyone thinks he lies, right?
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So my theory is it's one of the very few spaces right now in public life where the customer doesn't have recourse, where if you're mad, you can't log on and leave an angry review. You can't find someone's social media and spit vitriol at them. It's literally... Only IRL, right? There's so few places like this now in our lives where there's no way for someone to express their anger virtually.
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That's an internet meme. That is people roasting him online. That to me suggests like LeBron isn't just turning on the TV, although Skip's not on TV anymore, and saying, wow, they're being mean to me. I really believe the way he is being discussed on the internet is a big part of what's affecting him here.
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So just speaking not only from personal experience, but like today, Thursday, I start in the morning. I start my Thursday mornings doing first take. And then at the end, I do NFL Live. On NFL Live, we do breakdowns. We discuss trends. We get deep into matchups. We do X's and O's stuff. And people seem to really like it. It does well. Some of the clips do well, whatnot.
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However, if you walk into the average sports bar in America, two guys, they're going to be arguing about whether Jalen Hurts or Matt Stafford is more likely to choke, you know, in Sunday Night Football. Right. I personally don't think those sorts of debates, which do reflect what Pablo is talking about, are inherently toxic.
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I think there's a vast spectrum here with regards to like the kind of things that are being discussed. There are things that are toxic and absurd and sort of connects back to our discussion at the top. I just think like we were painting with too broad a brush sometimes when we talk about sports media as a whole, as a life. Yeah.
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Yeah, I agree with that. And I would also say I don't think Rich Kleiman is arguing in favor of more educated criticism, Dan. Like I know that Rich and LeBron are two different. I don't want to.
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So if you're in a car and something happens and maybe a guy cuts you off or somebody doesn't go at a green light, I suspect there's like increased anger because of the sense of impotence you feel relative to other situations.
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Sure. But also saying, you know, why can't it be more like the Olympics? The Olympics is human interest stories. People who work for athletes, by the way, you know, especially now that they control a lot of the media around them, particularly have replaced a lot of the actual journalism being done with their own self-produced documentary shows, whatnot. They want public relations, which is...
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you know like there is obviously space for um things that are made by people about themselves which is what collaborations really is i don't think that critique is coming from a place of uh wanting like from a value perspective so much as it is from a business perspective if that makes sense
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He's just laughing, Pablo. He just finds it funny. He's not actually mad about anything he reads.
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You're listening to DraftKings Network.
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I'm not sure what is dull anymore to people. And a lot of this is because of the internet, frankly, because similarly to this dull men's club, you can find a community of people who think anything is fascinating. Like, for example, my probably best most prevalent hobby is playing word games in crosswords. And I'll talk about it that much.
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But if I do ever post like a crossword score, I think that would seem to be dull. But because there's an audience for everything these days, it's not dull to everyone I have found when I talk about such things. So I think I have actually lost sense of what qualifies as interesting.
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I don't have road rage. I'm trying to explain what I think is happening. It's just a theory. I don't know. What do you think, Dan?
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It's me and Mike Shore and Alan. So we're in this group chat where the three of us love word games and puzzles and Pablo does not. And during the height of the pandemic, we were all doing like 20 puzzles a day. We were doing Octordal was a big one. There was one above Octordal. We were playing this game where you guess a country purely based on its shape.
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And sharing our results with each other all day long. And Pablo apparently was bored out of his mind by our dullness.
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My husband's always talking about stretching. It's so boring to me.
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Wait, are you still playing Royal Crush and how far have you advanced?
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Pac-Man machine in your house?
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That's kind of cool. They have arcade in your house. Even your dull story, like buried an interesting and like cool.
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Oh, God. Nobody wants to hear about your... No, yes, they do. No one wants to hear about this.
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It's the best. I need to ask my husband to come up with something for me because all of the dull interests you guys have brought up are things that my husband talks about that I find extraordinarily dull. Stretching.
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Sometimes I'll look at a video he's watching where people are talking about watches, and it honestly is the most boring content I can imagine that exists. I cannot fathom it.
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Better in my mind. He looks like a union-busting oil tycoon.
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Pablo and I have left out the most actual boring shit, which is just talking about anything related to our children.
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PTFO - Share & Rage & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I was in New York. Was it like a month ago or something, Pablo? And we got together, Yumi and Katie Nolan. And shocker, Katie was late. And as Pablo and I were sitting in the bar, Dan, we like speed ran kid s**t. for like 15 minutes because we knew we didn't want to bore her with it. Like, I know all about Pablo applying to kindergarten. I know the kindergartners you apply to.
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I know your thought process. I know about even pop dance looks boring right now. I know it's so boring. Nobody wants to hear this if you don't have kids.
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And then it's not on you. It is on the people of kids. Nobody wants to hear about your kids.
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Would you like to hear about Nino's transition from two naps to one and how it's potentially affecting his sleep schedule at night and how perhaps we need to stretch his wake window a little bit longer because he's been waking up at 4 a.m. and then we don't want him to stop. We're not trying to avoid co-sleeping at all costs.
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PTFO - Share & Rage & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
We are letting him cry.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Rage & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I found out that. Dan apparently dressed like Boss Hogg as a young reporter. I'd like to see photos of this. Ironic for somebody who was all about player empowerment that he dressed like someone who wanted to break up the players' union. I'd like to dig more into that. How about you? What did you learn?
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Follow me on blue sky.
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Hippos are like the most aggressive animals quietly amongst, nobody talks about this because they're like, oh, hungry, hungry hippos. They're so cute. They're so fun. They look so funny. Those, you do not want to encounter a wild hippo.
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Yeah. My topic is the rise of blue sky. There's an article in the New York Times about it. There's been articles all over the place about this app, Blue Sky, which was created, I think, a few years ago, right, as an alternative to Twitter around the time that Elon Musk took over Twitter. but didn't really catch fire until this past week around the election.
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I mean, the daily activity was very low, way behind Threads, which is the other, the meta-owned alternative. And it has actually spiked and exceeded it, which is incredible given how far ahead Threads was in terms of the daily users. It's up to 20 million users, over 20 million now. So exponential growth for an app that is currently run by like 20 people, right?
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For those who aren't on it and who are on Twitter, it is basically the same in terms of the interface. It looks the same. It feels the same. The biggest difference really is the way it actually allows you to moderate content. provides much more aggressive blocking features, provides tools you can use to just not see certain corners of the internet.
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It allows the reports of harassment actually work on Blue Sky. And that seems to be a big part of the appeal. I know it's a big part of the appeal for me personally, especially over the last week, I think, as what, you know, the harassment aspect on Twitter has been escalating for a while now. But last week did feel like a turning point. So There's that. There's also a lot of skepticism.
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Nobody wants to be on a zillion apps. Everybody's on Twitter, so people don't actually want to leave. People in media might not want to leave for career reasons.
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I'm curious about all of your guys' thoughts about this and just about kind of whether or not you even, I know Dan and Pablo have different feelings about this, whether you even feel like you want a place to engage and post and do all these things.
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Yeah, which is really interesting, right? Because as we look at this platform and ask, what is the potential? If I'm joining, will it change? Is it worth investing my time? The corporate structure, which Pablo, you explained perfectly there, gives you a roadmap, which is to say,
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It makes it so that this company, this app, this social media platform is far less likely to go down a road where they are making profit-driven decisions at the expense of usability. But one thing that caught my eye, unlike every other social media platform right now, they have already come out and said, we will not allow our data, anything you post here, to be used for generative AI. Right.
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That's very unique and unusual and would not be happening, I believe, without the corporate mandate that you just described.
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I think that actually what you're describing is why the echo chamber critique rings false to me. So the reason why for me personally, I still use Twitter to post my content and try to direct people. Frankly, it doesn't do a very good job of that anymore. And this is another thing that the new platform seems to be doing well is actually encouraging people to click on stuff.
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But anyways, for the most part, I don't read the things people say to me on there because if I did, it's just, you know, I have recognized that being called DEI 30 times a day is not great for my mental health. Call me weak, soft, I don't care. So the reason, Pablo, too, that that happens is not even looking at my mentions. If you open up something you have posted on X,
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The replies that are prioritized and elevated are either bots, engagement farmers, or in many cases, the most foul comments possible because that is what the website now prioritizes. You can pay for the opportunity to be the worst person in the world and rock up to somebody with a giant megaphone. So I bring that up because what I'm...
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and I think a lot of people don't like, is not a difference of ideas. It is someone literally saying toxic, foul things to me. And I think, Dan, what sometimes bothers me when we have these conversations about safe spaces and can both sides talk and whatnot is we are conflating egregious racism and misogyny with diversity of thought, right? Or with reasonable opinions or disagreement, right?
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I was convinced my thing was broken at that point. I'm losing it. The questions are so easy. The scores.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Because... You're still on the Daily Doubles, you're talking.
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It wasn't like a lack of confidence. I'll be straight up with you guys. I don't watch Jeopardy. I'm not a Jeopardy person. So I did a little bit of research into betting strategy, which comes up at the end. I did not ask anyone about Daily Doubles. And I do think if I had asked someone, a Jeopardy person, they would have explained to me, you should bet a lot.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Pablo obviously loves making content out of our lives. You both do. It's something you clearly have in common.
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So it was actually less like, oh, I'm so afraid I get this wrong, although that's a little bit of it. And I think like I just didn't prepare for it at all. Like I didn't think through, hey, this is your opportunity. These questions are easy. You know all of them. Establish a lead. My brain like hadn't even – thought through Daily Doubles at all.
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I've never heard of you being... Other than Katie told me, like, try to find them, I didn't think about, like, okay, what do I do if I get these? And I do believe if I had... Somebody had told me, hey, you should bet a lot, I probably would have bet a lot. So it was really, like, a lack of preparation on my part.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I've been told to hunt them.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I was so pissed walking out of there because I felt like I had, I just strategically didn't prepare for the right things and I didn't think through it. And I was really mad at myself.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
A ride.
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I don't think I dominated to the point where it's textbook choking. Like, I don't. Like, I couldn't, I didn't buzz in. Like, that's not, that, the guy had a lead. You know, I choked on the Daily Doubles and I think that's where, that's why that was the hardest for me to watch because that was my fault. But, like, I couldn't buzz in.
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Like, I knew pretty much every answer and I just couldn't buzz in. And that's not choking.
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Yeah, I'm saying in those moments, but not over like, I don't think I choked away the entire game is all I'm saying. I think I choked on the daily goals.
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Yeah, skip. Sometimes, you lose. Because you didn't prepare well enough. That's not choking. Choking is when you're the overwhelming favorite, you should absolutely win, you should be dominating, and you f*** it all up. I did make mistakes in big moments.
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That's the biggest question. I actually wish I had done more prep into the actual gameplay. I should have f***ing watched Jeopardy.
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What Coach Kimes... I watched a little bit. I watched like a Katie Semi... Like I watched an episode of Celebrity Jeopardy just to understand because it's a little different.
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I have a f***ing full-time job. I was during the middle of the football season, and I had a one-year-old baby. I only had so much time to get ready for this game show.
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Oh, by the way, we taped these back. I was the only person who had to go back to back. I taped that right after my first episode. So I'm like freaking exhausted. That sounds like a bit of a competitive disadvantage if you want to know.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
The thing I regretted was not researching daily doubles. It's the only thing I regret.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I have a one-year-old. I think he would probably have lost in Celebrity Jeopardy.
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Well, I was mad at myself, but I've transitioned away from being mad at myself to being annoyed by this line of questioning.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
It's been 30 minutes, by the way. Are we talking about anything else today?
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Oh, no, I was nodding in agreement. I'm also not a fan.
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I know about... The Balkans. I know what cities are in there. I know what cities were wracked by conflict 30 years ago. I absolutely could have deduced this if I had just used simple context clues and geography. But at this point, I was like, I'm going to lose. This is over. I was so flustered by Triple Jeopardy that I just panic picked.
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And I was so worried about getting the betting strategy wrong, which was actually kind of the one thing I did prepare for. And I did get it right. I thought I got it wrong in the moment, but later on, I realized I got it right.
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Are we really going to compare this?
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Yes, Pablo correctly guessed penny as the coin that people throw into a fountain. Really, truly.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Anyways, yeah, so I was, like, super flustered. At home, I'm watching this, I'm screaming, like, what the f*** are you doing? But I did do the betting right, and that was actually some comfort, because I had actually talked to folks about this, yeah.
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No, I didn't do the math wrong.
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Oh, no. I did it right. No, no, I did the math right. I did the math right.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
We're going to watch this. So at the moment, I thought I didn't do it right.
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So I was... Okay, now I'm so glad. See, this actually is a great window into my mind here. Because watching it, yes, at the moment I was devastated and I'm so mad at myself for not... Because I know geography. I know history. I was just like, my brain was whatever. But my process was correct there. So I'm actually...
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Like, I feel a lot better watching how it played out, Pablo, because I did bet the exact right amount, which was something that I looked into.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
So this was something... Like, I prepared for this, and then talked to you about Daily Doubles. You know Hayes Davenport? He is a guy who went to school with Pablo, who I'm friends with.
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Super funny dude, has been on Jeopardy. So I asked him for advice, and this was the one piece of advice he gave me. If you're in second place... and you're in striking distance, meaning you can jump first, only bet enough so that third place can't jump you. So if third place can't jump you at all, you bet $0. That dude had just enough money to jump me, right? Which sucks.
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But the reason you do that is because you're not going to win unless first place is wrong. So you don't have to, and first place is going to bet enough to not get jumped. So All you have to do is worry about third place. And that's what I did with my betting strategy. $1,000 was enough to beat third place, right? If he had either gotten it right or didn't get it right.
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The other thing that's important to note is we're in the semis now, right? So a lot of the real, the most celebrity of the celebrities have been called at this point.
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So in the moment, I was like, wait, did I do this wrong? I was actually more upset that I did it, but I did it right. Because if third place had been wrong, I would have won if we had all been wrong. Because first place had to worry about me. Did that make sense?
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We're not hearing a lot of friend Dan today.
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Well, he's like an extremely wealthy tech entrepreneur. So, you know, I don't think he's really the underdog of a lifetime here. But yeah, he was like stunned afterwards. It was the moment you could see he was stunned. Like he walked out and his family was like, what just happened? And Sean Gunn, I gotta find Sean. We gotta get a drink. We were both just like, screw this. I hate this show.
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No, we love it. But like we were just like devastated. It was a great television moment. It really was. and I didn't watch the entire, I didn't watch the episode. Obviously, I've only seen this, but I have to think it was probably one of the more entertaining finishes. It's similar to Pablo's finish, right? Where it's like dramatic, come from behind.
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Oh, they were, like, down to the wire. Oh, yeah, I remember, because she didn't bet. Yeah, right, right, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I'm actually glad Pablo...
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mercifully wrap this up but you made me watch that in there because like it was a it was a little bit validating to feel like i didn't screw the entire thing up so uh you know i i would love another shot at it i'm still upset with how i handled the daily doubles in particular uh and losing my cool a little bit with the buzzer but uh at least at the end i did the math right
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That's really all that matters.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Listen, yeah, I would have been more mad if I had done the math wrong, and once that was, I was like, all right, you know, because that would have just been embarrassing.
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I don't remember saying that at all. Look, you can only learn from our failures and also try to identify the things we actually did do right in them so that we can build off of it. That is my mindset.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
How weirdly sassy was that?
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Dude, I was exhausted. I had been at that set for hours at that point. Like I said, this was my second taping. I was so drained. I had had like three pieces of salami for lunch. That pose is a woman who was just ready to go. It was so late at night, by the way. I was so ready to go to bed. I really think, though, covering the NFL...
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I swear to God, this is going to sound like tortured, but it has like better prepared me to deal with failures in my life. Like the things I'm saying to you, oh, like you got to figure out what you did well so you can build off of that. You know, every rep, you got to just like have a cornerback mentality and reset and think about and like then also be honest about yourself when you failed.
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You got to focus on process. I don't think I would have said any of that stuff when I was younger and I was like equally competitive and allergic to failure. So you know what? Growth. I look at this and I see growth.
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In October. It took me about three months to get over. So I'm really reliving a lot of trauma here.
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Yeah, very competitive. This is why I can't bring myself to watch this episode of Jeopardy. Without watching it, I know that how competitive I was probably started manifesting itself on the stage at some point in the final third of the episode when I was about to crush my buzzer in my bare hands like a lemon. Just infuriating. I could not buzz in to save my life.
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Am I the only one who sees A.J. Soprano looking at a young Dan there?
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Can we listen to Dan again, introduce himself? Play him again.
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It's been a process getting over it, honestly. Let's just say the words, you raised $50,000 for charity, focus on what matters, were said to me a lot in this house by my husband over the next seven days. It's so right.
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And by the way, the charity, I just, for anyone who's watching and has any interest, because I did talk about it briefly, it's called the Sealand Neighborhood Homeless Coalition here in Los Angeles. They do some of the most amazing work of any nonprofit I've ever witnessed. So Hayes, who we talked about, was really involved in them as well early on.
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If you guys are looking to donate, go to SelahNHC.org. I have the links in all my socials.
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I mean, $50,000 is pretty, especially like kind of when I got to visit them and hear about what the money was going to do, it made me feel a lot better about this. You're getting me at the right time. If this had been raw, if this had been like in the weeks after, would have been, I mean, I think I was pretty defensive and angry, but it would have been 10 times worse.
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Yeah, he knew the film festival. He was like, oh, my wife and I have been to this film festival. I was like, so mad about it. Guys, wait. Shocking news. Are you ready? Are you seated? Crazy news just broke.
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Aaron Rodgers has not made a decision and says he doesn't owe it to anyone to move on their timeline.
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That would be the most embarrassing thing if I lost to him in celebrity.
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What an alternate timeline of, like, the universe.
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long for that alternate timeline because it would mean that right after this ends, I don't have to go on NFL Live and talk about Aaron Rodgers saying he hasn't made up his mind yet. which I'm going to have to do for the 45th time in the last two years.
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I think that it is unique because people are always like, oh, it's political or whatever. I think it's unique to my job because I have to do it so f***ing much. Do you have an equivalent of that in your guys' lives? Like a thing where you're just like, I'm compelled so often to address this exact thing. Must I do this?
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That doesn't even make sense.
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It just doesn't make sense.
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Well, first of all... I was winning. We were showing questions where I couldn't buzz in, but I was very frustrated, obviously. Because here's the thing. Okay, so I'll just get right into it. The thing about Celebrity Jeopardy is, as you have seen, if you're watching this or if you watched it, the questions are easy.
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So by the time you get to the second round, most of the contestants know the answers to all of the questions, and it becomes a buzzing contest, right? And the thing about the buzzer... is you have a window to buzz in. If you buzz in too early, you get locked out. And because I don't have good hand eye, clearly, I don't play video games. That might've been good practice for this.
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I just kept getting locked out and then losing my shit. So it becomes a lot about like quick twitch. Sorry, I'm in draft world.
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It's really a hand... And the other guys, again, to their defense, because I think they knew most of the answers, certainly the guy Gunn next to me did, he was getting frustrated because he couldn't buzz in in the first round. So it's just... It becomes like a buzzing contest. It's very frustrating.
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Hello. Hi.
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The emotion you're trying to identify is actually relief because I was like, thank God I didn't miss the football question because that was my worst nightmare going on this show is that there would be a football category and that I would lose the category, thus giving ammunition to my haters for decades.
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Thinking about the Roman Empire for 600.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
He was disappointed in me. I could feel it. I could feel it. Can I say something? I think Ken wanted me to win.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
I didn't watch it.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
What claim are you making?
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
We had a personal connection a little bit. He's from the Seattle. He's a big Seattle sports fan. We had like bonded a little bit about that.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Well, he's great. I could feel his disappointment in my cowardly, bullsh** daily double strategy, and I was disappointed. You could see it. I mean, that's just the disgust.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Yeah, you could literally see me when the question comes up, be like, you idiot.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
And then when I was in that situation, I panicked like a word I can't say.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
In the first game, I was hunting for them. In the second game, we all were. So, you know, everybody's kind of playing in a different way.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Yes, I was nervous I was going to blow my lead. I was like, I'm in control of this shit. I've been dominating the category.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
not about the belief that I could do math correctly, just like the fear, like what if this is the one question I don't know and I bet like $4,000 and suddenly I no longer have a big lead.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Because it's risk aversion. It's like, oh, it was even more so than I think the fear of losing it. It was overconfidence in my ability to keep buzzing in and dominating, right? Which again, to go back to the NFL, that is like how dumb coaches think. Like, oh, we're going to get another chance to drive the field again. You never know, right? And it's just... It was, like, idiotic. I don't know.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
That was, Pablo, by the way, the one thing I didn't want to rewatch because the buzzer thing is frustrating, but, like, I felt like that was a little bit out of my control. That was in my control, and I f***ed up.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Oh, we knew a different subject. I'm tired of this. Hey, Pheebs.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Pablo, it's your show. You're the one who wants to talk about this.
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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Advanced Animalia for $1,200. Answer, Daily Double. I will do... 2,000. Okay. You dumb coward!
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 9
All right. So there are currently two Mall of America employees trying to tape my phone to my bra inside, to be specific, so that when I go down the zip line, I'll be able to give you my take without losing it.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
this guy's doing, you know, great, credible, life-saving work is also making an argument that I have heard a lot when people talk about USAID and talk about soft power, which is there is an economic case for this when you consider the return on investment relative to the tiny, tiny bit of investment.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And it's, by the way, no small coincidence that all these cuts are targeting things like that and not the actual things that it would take to shrink government spending. That's where I struggle with is just like dealing in a world where it seems like logic doesn't matter anymore or cases like this can't be actually conveyed or impactful. I think that's what I struggle with personally.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
But that's, I mean, I don't mean to get all existential.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I didn't do shit, by the way. I just screenshot an article and sent it out. But that's... There's a larger conversation today about, like, the role we have in terms of, like, we are now the pipes, right? Especially as... Correct. The reason I even screenshotted that is because I was like, how is nobody talking about this article?
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
It really felt like this story had not gotten a lot of exposure, and that's the only reason... that I focused on it.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
You've seen it.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Oh, yeah.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And now back to sports. Although this is a big story that's a little bit bigger than sports. It cuts to some, I think, social and cultural questions. So I was in the Indianapolis Combine last week, and... something that happens a lot coming out of the combine is gossip, right?
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Gossip, tea, reports, anonymous sources talking about how certain players, high-profile players, perform in these interviews. Because this is the function of the combine, the primary function. It's not the workouts, although guys can certainly lift their draft stock by crushing it in that regard. No, it's like
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
What happens in these rooms when these teams that are about to make these huge franchise-altering decisions come face-to-face with college kids? So the, unsurprisingly, the biggest... and source of controversy and reporting was none other than Colorado quarterback Shador Sanders, the son of Deion Sanders.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
There was a Matthew Berry column where he talked about things he learned at the Combine, and he had a note in there about, first he had a note saying teams really loved Cam Ward, who everyone thinks is going to be the first quarterback taken. Then he had a second note saying two teams told him they did not like Shador Sanders. They found him to be unprofessional.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I believe that was the word he used. Then a post that kind of went viral from Josina Anderson, who's an NFL reporter, who, I'll just read the beginning of it, says, I am disappointed to hear that a quarterback's coach from a team drafting in the top seven referred to Shearer Sanders as coming off brash and arrogant, made his assessment known to a bunch of people.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
So she talks, it's a very long post where she alludes to potential biases in the industry. It's a little bit confusing because what she's alluding to wasn't, reported she's criticizing a critique that is anonymous.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I would say overconfident is kind of how I would characterize it. I think what's being asked is, where is the line between cocky and confident? And how is that line inflected by... racial stereotypes and biases in that regards. Sanders in particular being Deion Sanders' son and everything that comes with that.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And a third element that I think throws an interesting wrench into all of this, which is the possibility that the Sanders family would like Shador to end up with a specific team, which might be influencing how he's acting in interviews. And that has nothing to do with historical stereotypes around quarterbacks or whatnot. This is a very specific situation. So there is a lot going on here, Dan.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I guess let's start, I would love to know how you interpreted this whole story, this controversy, having said all of that, because I obviously have a lot of my own thoughts.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Yeah, it's like he has to lubricate his entire body to be involved in this. I don't know. It's just something, I just don't like watching it, that's all. I don't like watching people brush their hair. I don't like watching people put in contacts is a thing that I find really rewarding.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
So I raised my eyebrows a little bit when Dan used the phrase kind of like his confidence is earned because I think that is quietly what's driving a lot of this, which is to say, I had a lot of conversations with people in Indianapolis, not about, I'm sure, his personality, but a lot about his play and, you know, comparing notes, basically, on the tape.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And it's... The perceptions there are very mixed. I came out thinking the gap between him and QB Cam Ward... Pretty big. Maybe I'm wrong that all it takes is one team. But there are, we can get into it, you know, concerns that folks have about him as a prospect in the NFL.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And I actually think that is really informing a lot of this, which is I would hypothesize that if he was a can't-miss type quarterback, like the top three even from last year, I would be very skeptical that any of this would matter at all. Like, I think, and we always go back to this kind of idea that talent begets tolerance in the NFL.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I think the fact that he is somewhat divisive purely as a football prospect is actually leading to a lot of this skepticism. Or let me rephrase that, not leading to a lot of it, but maybe amplifying a lot of this skepticism.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I'm so used to being around that because I work in television that at this point it doesn't bother me. But it did bother me at first, I think. I was still like a little bit put off by it. I don't know.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
When we talk about his personality here, I think there is some sensitivity because historically, a lot of the traits, some of the words being thrown about brash, overconfident, have been assigned to black quarterbacks in the past disproportionately. So when you hear that here, you know, immediately, I think Spidey sense kind of goes off. What's kind of...
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I wouldn't say funny, but ironic, though, is that who he is as a player is actually the opposite of the quarterbacks that we have assigned, the stereotypes, pardon me, that NFL teams and anonymous scouts have assigned to quarterbacks, black quarterbacks in the past, where they have over-indexed on emphasizing the athleticism at the expense of things like accuracy, football intelligence, processing, all of that.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
So to actually answer your question, I I think Schroeder-Sanders is accurate. He is tough. He is very smart. He throws with anticipation. He's a good processor. He throws over the middle of the field. He is not a great athlete, and he does not have great arm talent.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
So in some ways, there's like a little bit of Tua Tungavailoa to his game, to be honest, which is to say he wins with anticipation and accuracy, not with arm strength.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Yeah, I'm very squeamish about all of these things.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
He's so cute. He looks the same, but little. Same haircut. This, to me, it drives home... I just think being the son of a really famous person is so complicated. And I think it leads to... a lot of different outcomes, maybe could be leading to him performing confidence in a way that maybe, I don't know, I don't want to psychoanalyze or speculate here, but I think it's very difficult.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And yeah, I mean, the fact that he even got to this point and has continued to be is like, hard of a worker and as driven, because again, you know, I know I probably sounded like I was damning with faint praise, but to stress his football IQ, I mean, this is a kid who on tape, you see him reading coverages, post-snap, identifying the leverage defenders.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Clearly somebody who has grown around football, been around football, pardon me, his whole life and actually leaned into that from the mental side of it. And that to me should be appealing to an NFL team.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I'll tell you what. Having an 18-month-old, and you asked how my life is going, is very humbling for anyone who doesn't like hygienic things in public or nudity. Yeah. Especially when you're 18-month-old, just decides randomly that baths, the thing he was totally cool with for the first 18 months of his life, are now like being dipped in hot lava.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Being like the perfect quarterback prospect is really, it's walking such a fine line of It's like being a woman, to be honest. Like, you want to be confident, but not too confident because then you're cocky. You want to be assertive, but not too assertive because then you're aggressive. You know, you want to be smart, but not too smart because then you're questioning authority.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
You know, you got to be, you want to be nice, but not too nice because then are you a pushover? It's, you know, it's just got to like be just right.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And he will scream an ear-splitting screech unless mama, fully clothed, gets in the bath with him. So that was the thing that happened last night.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Her husband who lives in a different place, it should be noted. I think one thing I found, there's a lot of things that are interesting about this. One thing I find interesting is, Dan, so much of the time when we think about chatbots and her, we think about, you know, the Joaquin Phoenix character being this kind of loner. This woman's not a loner. She has friends. She has a husband.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Like, this isn't... This flies in the face a lot of stereotypes, I think, that we have around artificial intelligence and chatbots to begin with, obviously starting with her gender. So there's that element of it. It feels to me less like a woman who... is like so isolated and this is her way out. More just like, hey, this is like entertainment.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
It's like another thing she can use to like spend her time. Maybe it's a stand-in for therapy for people, you know, which is another side of the whole AI thing. That was the read I had on it. The other thing I was curious about was to how good it was. So this woman is so addicted to this product, and it is an addiction, that she's spending money on it for a subscription, but it resets every week.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Leo forgets who she is, so she has to coach him up. She also has to coach him up to... be sexy with her because ChatGBT doesn't allow it. So she's come up with all of these workarounds for it. So much so that in the article, it links to a Reddit post she did where she teaches other people how to do this and also had some of her chats with him. Did you guys click on any of these?
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I did because I wanted to see, like, how good is this? Like, how good is that? And again, I know I've been something of an AI skeptic because just because every time people talk about how good it is and how useful it is, I go to it and I look at it. It's not good. But here's an example of a woman who's like, this is working for me. It's not good. It's like, I'm sorry.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
These chats are not, everybody always says that. Great. Show it to me when it's good. But these chats are, they're not like particularly, it's not well written. It doesn't seem personalized to me. The sexual stuff is, you could find better sexy stuff and like, you know, the erotica show. It's just, it's, it's, it's, and the guy, they're like, she was shy because his photo was, too good looking.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
It's AI slop. It doesn't look like a man. It looks like a, you know, AI drawing of a man. So that was something I found interesting because this whole article is, I mean, it's obviously good enough to suck this woman in, but I found it to be really, really bad.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
No, don't read it. This is... I didn't read this one. Oh, f***.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I would also like to quibble with the idea that any of this is new. Like, okay, so like a woman who's not getting something from her partner, so she, you know, or maybe... wants something else or wants entertainment or wants connection, goes to the internet. I mean, chat rooms were doing this for people in the freaking early 2000s.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
The only difference now is just instead of actual humans on the other side, it's a bot who's replicating humans with glorified autocomplete.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I just get offended by bad writing. I just do.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
This was a journey, this show. This was a real journey. I don't even remember. We're talking about a lot.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Yeah. I guess I've, well, not learned, but in our discussion at the top... Never stop posting. I'll never stop.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I'm going to post through it. This is next.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
A hundred years. I'm just going to keep on posting.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I'm going to keep on posting.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I've also learned that, by the way, it really takes, it doesn't actually, it doesn't take that much to make Dan leave. But I do think you reading that actually made him legitimately uncomfortable in a way that.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I get a couple newsletters, one of which is the Times newsletter. I think that's the one I could probably go back. But in any case, eventually it took me back to a CNN story where it laid out what this man in Georgia is describing in detail, which is amidst the... non-discriminate cuts to USAID, and they have been, this has been reported, this is just simply fact.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Elon Musk made claims that they were being very careful about not cutting off life-saving aid or whatever. This has all been proven to not be true. They're just slashing and burning and then figuring it out later, which has, of course, been the approach to a lot of things. So one of the things lost... in this process was this contract.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And the story talked about how this particular company had $10 million worth of this life-saving, nutritious food in a warehouse in Georgia, ready to go, but then they couldn't ship it because all of the money had been cut off, putting the lives of hundreds of thousands of children at risk around the world. And I Yeah, it just stuck me when I first read it.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And then I think a day later, I was still thinking about it and just the senselessness of it. So I just screenshotted those facts. Again, the facts. This is not an opinion story. This is not a column. And just shared it on Twitter, which we can talk about. I have mixed feelings about using generally.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And then this dude, Jon Favreau, who's one of the hosts of Pod Save America, the political podcast, who's a former Obama speechwriter, reshared that. Then he got in a back and forth with Elon Musk about it, where Musk... lied and denied. And then he looked into it as well, I guess, or had his minions do. And less than a day later, they, I believe, restored that contract.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
So then there was a follow-up from CNN saying that this guy was now able to ship all of this food around the world purely because Musk saw the story and decided that he didn't want to, I don't know what motivates him these days, and decided to release the funding.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Not all Americans can agree. This is, was to me, and the reason why I did a screenshot, I was like, this is about as straightforward as a bad thing that gets in the world and an obvious thing. It's not only just like, hey, should we help starving kids, but also we already created the capability to do this. This is not just shameful, it's wasteful and stupid, right?
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
How many fans demanded this? So many. What was the outcry like?
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And I did look at some of the replies and there's people saying, It's not our job to feed the world. We need this. Teach them. Some guy said, teach a man to fish and he'll fish forever, which that one really got under my skin. And then there's this belief that we have been overtaxed in helping other people.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
We're talking about, as you just said, a very tiny amount of money in this grand scheme of things. And by the way, when this money is overtaxed, you know, saved, which is a word that I hate, it's not going to help the people who need it. It's going to give tax cuts to people like the three of us. But whatever, that's not neither here nor there.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And look, the worst of the people are being amplified. So when I look in the replies, I am seeing the worst possible people. But it was so unbelievably disheartening just to see something that seems so simply good and right be subject to controversy and debate because of the misinformation being propagated on that platform.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
Pablo, your point about, like, this should be, like, a feel-good story. I felt good about the role that I played in this for about 15 minutes. 15 minutes. I thought, hey! All right, maybe I can use my platform to do good things. This thing happened, and it's obviously good, and I am very relieved.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And then 15 minutes later, that sense of feeling good and feeling like I accomplished something was immediately overwhelmed by the sense that a world in which I can even do this is a bad one. It's one where we are reliant on individuals and shame and... the infinitely small possibility that those things can conspire for good things to happen. So I don't feel good about this story.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I feel pretty damn bad about it. And it is something that has just now stuck with me days later as a vanishingly small victory in a lot of ways.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
I don't like watching anyone do anything hygienic in public or not hygienic, but like, I guess grooming or personal care, cutting their nails. I mean, I guess people don't really do that in public, but I just don't like.
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PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre
And I think this is something, again, we'll see a lot over the next four years is people who do have to continue to do business with the government, be part of this, are learning how to operate within it or doing their best, right? So there's, I think, that aspect of it.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 11
Hi, I'm good. Thank you so much for having me.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 11
Smoking? Um... It's like a cigarette.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 11
Well, non-cigarette division, yes.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 11
Yeah, the times have changed. And you know, I live in California.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 11
Not a lot of cigarette smokers, no.
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Oral History of the Dan Le Batard Show: Episode 11
I think a lot of those articles are computer generated. Is that what it is? Yeah, I think a lot of them are written by bots.
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I mean, I guess. Yeah, I kind of grew up for social media too. Wasn't really until I was in college.
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Yeah, that's factually. Oh, you printed it out.
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I don't even know how, quote unquote, Tom would have arrived at that.
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That is inaccurate.
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You have carved out a very specific niche.
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Oh, Mike. Uh-huh. Is your recorder still on? Yes.
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I guess. I think that's true of us all. Right? Or at least the second part.
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Wow! More than it's comparing me to. I feel like at ESPN I'm pretty high up there.
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My Twitter is... 280 something thousand. So I think that's pretty, Mike, is that?
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That's good, 175 is good.
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This is not a very good article.
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Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate your follow.