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Mina Kimes

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I would say overconfident is kind of how I would characterize it. I think what's being asked is, where is the line between cocky and confident? And how is that line inflected by... racial stereotypes and biases in that regards. Sanders in particular being Deion Sanders' son and everything that comes with that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I would say overconfident is kind of how I would characterize it. I think what's being asked is, where is the line between cocky and confident? And how is that line inflected by... racial stereotypes and biases in that regards. Sanders in particular being Deion Sanders' son and everything that comes with that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

And a third element that I think throws an interesting wrench into all of this, which is the possibility that the Sanders family would like Shador to end up with a specific team, which might be influencing how he's acting in interviews. And that has nothing to do with historical stereotypes around quarterbacks or whatnot. This is a very specific situation. So there is a lot going on here, Dan.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

And a third element that I think throws an interesting wrench into all of this, which is the possibility that the Sanders family would like Shador to end up with a specific team, which might be influencing how he's acting in interviews. And that has nothing to do with historical stereotypes around quarterbacks or whatnot. This is a very specific situation. So there is a lot going on here, Dan.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I guess let's start, I would love to know how you interpreted this whole story, this controversy, having said all of that, because I obviously have a lot of my own thoughts.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I guess let's start, I would love to know how you interpreted this whole story, this controversy, having said all of that, because I obviously have a lot of my own thoughts.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

So I raised my eyebrows a little bit when Dan used the phrase kind of like his confidence is earned because I think that is quietly what's driving a lot of this, which is to say, I had a lot of conversations with people in Indianapolis, not about, I'm sure, his personality, but a lot about his play and, you know, comparing notes, basically, on the tape.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

So I raised my eyebrows a little bit when Dan used the phrase kind of like his confidence is earned because I think that is quietly what's driving a lot of this, which is to say, I had a lot of conversations with people in Indianapolis, not about, I'm sure, his personality, but a lot about his play and, you know, comparing notes, basically, on the tape.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

And it's... The perceptions there are very mixed. I came out thinking the gap between him and QB Cam Ward... Pretty big. Maybe I'm wrong that all it takes is one team. But there are, we can get into it, you know, concerns that folks have about him as a prospect in the NFL.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

And it's... The perceptions there are very mixed. I came out thinking the gap between him and QB Cam Ward... Pretty big. Maybe I'm wrong that all it takes is one team. But there are, we can get into it, you know, concerns that folks have about him as a prospect in the NFL.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

And I actually think that is really informing a lot of this, which is I would hypothesize that if he was a can't-miss type quarterback, like the top three even from last year, I would be very skeptical that any of this would matter at all. Like, I think, and we always go back to this kind of idea that talent begets tolerance in the NFL.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

And I actually think that is really informing a lot of this, which is I would hypothesize that if he was a can't-miss type quarterback, like the top three even from last year, I would be very skeptical that any of this would matter at all. Like, I think, and we always go back to this kind of idea that talent begets tolerance in the NFL.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I think the fact that he is somewhat divisive purely as a football prospect is actually leading to a lot of this skepticism. Or let me rephrase that, not leading to a lot of it, but maybe amplifying a lot of this skepticism.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I think the fact that he is somewhat divisive purely as a football prospect is actually leading to a lot of this skepticism. Or let me rephrase that, not leading to a lot of it, but maybe amplifying a lot of this skepticism.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

When we talk about his personality here, I think there is some sensitivity because historically, a lot of the traits, some of the words being thrown about brash, overconfident, have been assigned to black quarterbacks in the past disproportionately. So when you hear that here, you know, immediately, I think Spidey sense kind of goes off. What's kind of...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

When we talk about his personality here, I think there is some sensitivity because historically, a lot of the traits, some of the words being thrown about brash, overconfident, have been assigned to black quarterbacks in the past disproportionately. So when you hear that here, you know, immediately, I think Spidey sense kind of goes off. What's kind of...

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I wouldn't say funny, but ironic, though, is that who he is as a player is actually the opposite of the quarterbacks that we have assigned, the stereotypes, pardon me, that NFL teams and anonymous scouts have assigned to quarterbacks, black quarterbacks in the past, where they have over-indexed on emphasizing the athleticism at the expense of things like accuracy, football intelligence, processing, all of that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

I wouldn't say funny, but ironic, though, is that who he is as a player is actually the opposite of the quarterbacks that we have assigned, the stereotypes, pardon me, that NFL teams and anonymous scouts have assigned to quarterbacks, black quarterbacks in the past, where they have over-indexed on emphasizing the athleticism at the expense of things like accuracy, football intelligence, processing, all of that.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

So to actually answer your question, I I think Schroeder-Sanders is accurate. He is tough. He is very smart. He throws with anticipation. He's a good processor. He throws over the middle of the field. He is not a great athlete, and he does not have great arm talent.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Share & DOGE & Tell with Mina Kimes, Dan Le Batard, and Pablo Torre

So to actually answer your question, I I think Schroeder-Sanders is accurate. He is tough. He is very smart. He throws with anticipation. He's a good processor. He throws over the middle of the field. He is not a great athlete, and he does not have great arm talent.