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Mina Kimes

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4557 total appearances

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Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

Because from where I stand, I see a technology that where most of the money is just from other companies paying for it or for the services or the chips, right?

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

I don't see an economic impact at the ground level.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

And I don't see humans paying for it right now.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

Well, Mina brought up a scenario that I think is really easy to describe.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

If AI is anything close to NFTs, and OpenAI is currently valued at $600 billion, and Anthropic is currently valued at $400 billion, it's a bubble, period.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

It's over.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

These companies are doomed if this technology is NFTs.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

So along that timeline, you are looking at one of the biggest technological bubbles of the last few generations.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

It's not NFTs.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

And the reason it's not NFTs is that NFTs did not transform anyone's job, unless you were like a collector of digital tokens, digital artifacts, essentially.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

Look at what's happening in the software industry.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

The job of being a software programmer has been completely changed.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

Let me give you a sense.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

There's this company called Meter, M-E-T-E-R.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

that does these famous benchmark studies of AI.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

It does these studies that are quoted throughout Twitter, throughout the AI discourse of how powerful this technology is.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

And last year, they published a study that was held up very strongly by the AI doubters because it said that if you ask the best software programmers to use artificial intelligence, they think it makes them about 15%, 20% more effective.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

But if you have a third party grade their work, they're actually significantly less

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

less productive on an hour-per-hour basis.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Share & Bubble & Tell with Mina Kimes and Derek Thompson

And all these people who are doubters of artificial intelligence pointed this study and they said, look, this proves that AI is just vaporware.