Mina Kimes

Well, that's the other side of it. So yeah, I think most of the legal case seems to be about the kind of data collection side. But the other side is like, you know, the Chinese government is involved in these things and they have influence over their companies. And there's been a lot of studies about whether or not that's affected the actual content put out on TikTok.

And I found a lot of it to be pretty convincing and incredible, by the way. I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about like, just... Setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or a net bad? That's kind of what I'm thinking through.

And I found a lot of it to be pretty convincing and incredible, by the way. I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about like, just... Setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or a net bad? That's kind of what I'm thinking through.

And Pablo, you hit on something which is, I think, a point in his favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media. I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my head. head at once, one of which is, I think, Katie, you're right. There is a lot of actually lovely content on there.

And Pablo, you hit on something which is, I think, a point in his favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media. I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my head. head at once, one of which is, I think, Katie, you're right. There is a lot of actually lovely content on there.

I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things. So it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content. It's there, right? But I am still so profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures.

I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things. So it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content. It's there, right? But I am still so profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures.

Your point is dictated not by facts, but by an algorithm. It's by what's popular. And that's where I really feel like it's largely a net negative. And that to me kind of outweighs the good things that I'm seeing.

Your point is dictated not by facts, but by an algorithm. It's by what's popular. And that's where I really feel like it's largely a net negative. And that to me kind of outweighs the good things that I'm seeing.

sometimes unintentionally, or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have found a platform for elsewhere. And I think that's all true. My problem is sort of that it had become... sort of overtaken by, one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just, you know, shoveling shit.

sometimes unintentionally, or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have found a platform for elsewhere. And I think that's all true. My problem is sort of that it had become... sort of overtaken by, one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just, you know, shoveling shit.

And the fact that, you know, it has replaced a lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepared for. But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo. That's, you know, all of social media is a news source. So I think it's just it still does great things, but it also became everything for people. And I think that's not a good thing.

And the fact that, you know, it has replaced a lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepared for. But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo. That's, you know, all of social media is a news source. So I think it's just it still does great things, but it also became everything for people. And I think that's not a good thing.

I think he's going to play something. Oh, fair enough. Do you want me to play it? This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else. You guys are out of your mind.

I think he's going to play something. Oh, fair enough. Do you want me to play it? This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else. You guys are out of your mind.

I'm so confused by this game.

I'm so confused by this game.

Like once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women. Right. And then it just immediately turns into who's the hottest.

Like once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women. Right. And then it just immediately turns into who's the hottest.

Candy. That's probably Candy Reid. I'm not getting a candy vibe. Yeah.