Miranda Sawyer

You can swear on this podcast, don't worry not.

And what is a product manager job?

Okay, yeah.

So you put it all together so that the CD looks nice or the vinyl looks nice and all the spelling is correct.

Yeah.

Yeah, Goldie is like, he is who he is.

And basically you try and box him in or hold on to his coattails because he's going to do what he's going to do.

Yeah.

And you got in there?

But A&R, I mean, A&R is really interesting.

And when you describe it in Kill Your Friends, because obviously Kill Your Friends is like a satire of the music industry.

But it's also, in order for anything to be a satire, it's really accurate.

You know, like, so everything is exaggerated.

I mean, there's terrible murders in it.

And there's like, you know, appalling sexism and racism and everything like that.

But...

The actual kind of structure of what the main character, Stephen Stelfox, is doing is exactly like A&R.

He's doing A&R.

And that is from your experience.

And the main thing that comes across about it is the kind of look of it.