Miranda Sawyer

Successful.

And I think that you write a really brilliant kind of, I mean, there's a lot of ranting in the book.

That's a funny trope.

A really brilliant rant where you say that.

Yeah, but you say here, like you say, Madonna, Bono, the Spice Girls, Noel Gallagher, Kylie.

Do you really think any of that lot are talented?

Don't make me fucking laugh.

What they are is ambitious.

This is where the big money is.

Fuck talent.

Forget rock and roll.

If you just turned the other way out of the schoolyard, Bono could have been a very successful CEO of a huge armaments manufacturer.

Which is really funny, but what you're saying is, like, these people have got a rocket up their bum and they're going to succeed, whatever they do.

Yes, definitely.

And you became friends with James Dean Bradfield, didn't you?

Oh, we did?

Yeah, because you lived close to him.

There's a really sweet quote that I found in an interview where you said it became a bit like Seinfeld and you would just be like... You became friends and you would, like, just burst into each other's house.

You are indeed.

So you, like...