Missy Ryan

And we've had civil war and lots of episodes in our history.

But it seemed like we left that behind.

And

You know, it is kind of coinciding of the polarization of our country politically and societally with the availability of weapons.

And, you know, I think social media also plays a role.

So it does seem like a problem on the rise.

And as I said, it's not just the president, it's not just the members of the cabinet, but lots of lawmakers have been attacked, their families, judges, public officials at different levels.

Well, you know, we actually had a spirited debate among my colleagues earlier today about that.

You know, I think that you can look at it different ways that either the Secret Service failed because that person got so deep within the building and was able to make it so close to, you know, as we were talking about earlier, this like extremely unusual collection of senior officials missing.

But on the other hand, you know, they were never supposed to control the entire hotel.

They were like regular guests of the hotel.

You know, my colleagues and I had a drink at the lobby bar just before the event started.

And there's, you know, regular guests at the hotel and, you know, people who are visiting.

And so they did protect the president and they, you know, got people out.

And so from that perspective, they were successful.

I mean, you can't

shut off the whole country.

And, you know, that's the challenge that you have at political events.

We saw this in Butler, you know, did they create a big enough security zone?

In that case, they didn't.