Mitch Cleary

When's he out of contract?

Mitch, while we're waiting for the horny one, let's go to your number one.

Number one is the Geelong Footy Club.

Just to split them over two here.

So Cartland's in the process of trying to find their next coach after Michael Voss.

Steve, you wanted to ask you, James Kelly, I interviewed him on Thursday night at Adelaide Oval.

I believe he'll be very much in the process of the Carlton Footy Club, and I expect he'll sit down with Graham Wright and Chris Davies in the next week or so for a coffee.

Where do you see his future coaching aspirations?

He ran close to the Melbourne job that Stephen King won.

Would you have James Kelly firmly in these conversations?

That's the Carlton side of things.

And I don't expect, speaking to James, that the James Heard process around Essendon will impact him too much.

I think he's...

Ready to go in, eyes wide open, even if James Hurd is part of that process.

We've heard a few coaches in recent times back away.

Ken Hinckley, there's a few others that have, I think Adam Simpson flagged it.

It's good, isn't it?

It's an impressive front footer to get behind.

Absolutely.

And just another one out of the Geelong Footy Club.