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Mo Gawdat

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1435 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

I joined Google in 2007, very late 2006.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And at the time, most people don't know that at the time we had reasonably established AIs doing our backend work.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And 2008, we had the CAT paper, which was published 2009.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

The first real unprompted AI.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

I remember 2016, I had that incident where I was, you know, observing a project we were funding that was about teaching grippers how to grip machines.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

unlike industrial machinery.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

So to be able to grip like a human needs a very high level of intelligence to assess the texture, the softness, the positioning, and so on, the shape of everything.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And we were doing that, and it just blew my mind how similar to my kids they were.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And I think that was my very first realization that we were building the apex of intelligence.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

We were genuinely handing over the reins of superintelligence to another being, right?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And when you get faced with that, you start to suddenly realize something that we at Google found very difficult to realize, which was that

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

Everyone I knew at Google till then was believing that we were making the world a better place, and we were.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

We genuinely were doing amazing things for the world.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

But then suddenly there is a moment where you recognize that

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

maybe the world will not use what you're making the way you want it to be used.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And you can see that in lots of technologies.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

You know, social media starts by the claim that it's going to get us connected and gets us closer, but eventually ends up separating us with that little screen.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

You know, dating apps are giving you the promise that you're going to find your soulmate, but in reality, they keep renewing month after month.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And so tech somehow ends up being more capitalist than altruistic.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years Left Before This Hits! - Mo Gawdat

And I think I was, I wasn't the first.