Mo Gawdat

It's the ultimate matrix of complexity that I have ever encountered in my life.

And moving very quickly.

So from one side, you really need a lot of brain resources to crunch all that's happening, but you wake up tomorrow and it's changed.

I've got many books about happiness.

Oh, for sure.

I mean, honestly, if I wasn't living by this, I would have left this world a long time ago and went to an island somewhere.

You see, the interesting side of happiness is that it's not dopamine driven.

It's serotonin driven.

right so so my definition of happiness is i'm okay with this world as it is i can affect it i can change it i can engage with it i can try to make it better i don't have to accept it but i'm okay with it my starting point is a bit stoic if you want my start starting point is i accept this this is my reality and now i can start the work

This is very different than anyone that basically looks at the world and says, oh, this is a horrible world.

I don't want to be part of it.

I don't want to engage with it and so on and so forth.

And I genuinely have never been...

calmer about that chaos.

It's quite interesting.

You know, my wonderful ex actually really, really helped me with that.

There was a point in time where we were having dinner and I poured out crying from the sense of responsibility I had for the world.

And she looked at me so kindly, so gently and said, hold on, you know, I see that you're trying, but you can't actually believe that you're responsible for this.

And I think that completely flipped my mind because in a very interesting way, I was thinking that all that went wrong in technology is because of me.

Right.