Mo Gawdat

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett · Ex-Google Exec (Mo Gawdat) on AI: The Next 15 Years Will Be Hell Before We Get To Heaven… And Only These 5 Jobs Will Remain! · 4 Aug 2025 podcast

But on the other hand, I started to take an active role in building amazing AIs.

So AIs that will uh not only make our world better, uh, but that will

understand us, understand what humanity is through that process.

So in my in my mind, these are adverse circumstances that unfortunately might escalate beyond our control.

The problem is the uh there is a lot wrong with the um value set, with the ethics of humanity at the age of the rise of the machines.

And when you take a technology, every technology we've ever created just magnified human abilities.

So you know, you can walk at five kilometers an hour, you get in a car and you can now go, you know, 250, 280 miles an hour.

Okay.

Basically magnifying your mobility if you want.

You know, you can use a computer to magnify your uh calculation abilities or whatever, okay?

And and what AI is going to magnify, unfortunately, at this time, is it's going to magnify the evil that man can do.

And and it is within our hands completely, completely with hand within our hands to change that.

But I have to say I don't think humanity has the awareness uh at this time to focus on this so that we actually use AI to build the utopia.

Correct.

So and the difference between them, interestingly, is what I normally refer to as the second dilemma, which is the point where we hand over completely to AI.

So a lot of people think that when AI is in full control, it's going to be an existential risk for humanity.

You know, I have enough uh evidence to to argue that when we fully hand over to AI, that's going to be our salvation.

That the problem with us today is not, you know, that intelligence is gonna work against us, it's that our stupidity as humans is working against us.

And I think the challenges that will come from humans being in control.

uh are going to outweigh the

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