Mohsen Sazegara

No, no, no. Qasem Soleimani, maybe later during the war between Iran and Iraq. That's when he became a figure. Yeah.

No, no, no. Qasem Soleimani, maybe later during the war between Iran and Iraq. That's when he became a figure. Yeah.

No, Rafsanjani was in Iran. But he was a key figure for Khomeini. He was almost, amongst the clergy, he was almost the closest person to Khomeini.

No, Rafsanjani was in Iran. But he was a key figure for Khomeini. He was almost, amongst the clergy, he was almost the closest person to Khomeini.

Yeah, in Iran. And later, during the revolution and after victory, he was famous amongst Khomeini's friends that he's the favorite of Khomeini. And whatever he says to Khomeini, Khomeini doesn't listen and doesn't say no.

Yeah, in Iran. And later, during the revolution and after victory, he was famous amongst Khomeini's friends that he's the favorite of Khomeini. And whatever he says to Khomeini, Khomeini doesn't listen and doesn't say no.

First of all, I was a Muslim and, you know, in Shi'ism, we have source of emulation. Grand Ayatollah that you follow the religious orders from one of the Grand Ayatollahs. So I followed Khomeini as a source of emulation. Second, everybody believed, including me, that Khomeini is a man of God. He is very pious. He has been with God and, you know, practiced mysticism.

First of all, I was a Muslim and, you know, in Shi'ism, we have source of emulation. Grand Ayatollah that you follow the religious orders from one of the Grand Ayatollahs. So I followed Khomeini as a source of emulation. Second, everybody believed, including me, that Khomeini is a man of God. He is very pious. He has been with God and, you know, practiced mysticism.

And he's a divine person somehow. Third, I can say that while I was with him in Nefleshatou, he was very smart. Very smart, I have to say. In what way? Like when you say very smart?

And he's a divine person somehow. Third, I can say that while I was with him in Nefleshatou, he was very smart. Very smart, I have to say. In what way? Like when you say very smart?

When you talk to him, you know, especially when you talk about some subjects that are new for somebody, from his questions and understanding and get the idea that you are talking, you find out that how smart is that guy. He was very clever. And first of all, listened very carefully, took his hand, looked down and listened very carefully to whatever you wanted to talk to him about.

When you talk to him, you know, especially when you talk about some subjects that are new for somebody, from his questions and understanding and get the idea that you are talking, you find out that how smart is that guy. He was very clever. And first of all, listened very carefully, took his hand, looked down and listened very carefully to whatever you wanted to talk to him about.

And then he asked very politely. good questions, and absorb whatever you said. And he was very decisive. He could make decision just in 10 minutes and stand for that. And in personal relationship, he was very kind. On the contrary to his face in the world that was a grumpy person and that looked very tough at everybody, but against the U.S., against the Shah.

And then he asked very politely. good questions, and absorb whatever you said. And he was very decisive. He could make decision just in 10 minutes and stand for that. And in personal relationship, he was very kind. On the contrary to his face in the world that was a grumpy person and that looked very tough at everybody, but against the U.S., against the Shah.

But in personal relationship, he was very kind. To a person like me, 22, 23 years old, young student, he was talking very mild, very kind, or especially to children when some of the people who came to meet him had small children. He was very kind to them. But later, when we returned to Iran, very seldom I saw him.

But in personal relationship, he was very kind. To a person like me, 22, 23 years old, young student, he was talking very mild, very kind, or especially to children when some of the people who came to meet him had small children. He was very kind to them. But later, when we returned to Iran, very seldom I saw him.

once when I was at the head of radio, and maybe one more time, if I'm not wrong, when I was in heavy industries of Iran. No, two times more. But gradually, I think that he became a monster, too, because he ordered killing the people, execution of the political prisoners in 1988. 4,000 political prisoners were executed by his order just in three months. That's a crime. Why did he do that?

once when I was at the head of radio, and maybe one more time, if I'm not wrong, when I was in heavy industries of Iran. No, two times more. But gradually, I think that he became a monster, too, because he ordered killing the people, execution of the political prisoners in 1988. 4,000 political prisoners were executed by his order just in three months. That's a crime. Why did he do that?

What was his intentions when he did that? I think that there is a very, very, I have to say, horrible statement from him that says that these guys are the members of the organizations that are against Islam and should be executed. I don't know really how he made such a decision. There are many gestures about that. Maybe his son, Ahmad, wanted to do that, maybe Minister of Intelligence.

What was his intentions when he did that? I think that there is a very, very, I have to say, horrible statement from him that says that these guys are the members of the organizations that are against Islam and should be executed. I don't know really how he made such a decision. There are many gestures about that. Maybe his son, Ahmad, wanted to do that, maybe Minister of Intelligence.