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Moira Penza

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Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

So the government is going to make certain decisions to make sure that they can hold him responsible.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

I think that's totally fair. And I think that's the way that the system should work. I think that prosecutorial discretion is a very important part of the system. And certainly there can be cases where for a variety of reasons, maybe because somebody was such a victim him or herself that you choose not to prosecute them.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

I think that's totally fair. And I think that's the way that the system should work. I think that prosecutorial discretion is a very important part of the system. And certainly there can be cases where for a variety of reasons, maybe because somebody was such a victim him or herself that you choose not to prosecute them.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

So I think that there are a lot of similarities in the cases in that you have an individual who within his community is very high powered. Now, of course, far more people know Sean Combs than knew Keith Raniere at the time that I prosecuted him. But they were both men who have significant influences in the spheres in which they operated. And

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

So I think that there are a lot of similarities in the cases in that you have an individual who within his community is very high powered. Now, of course, far more people know Sean Combs than knew Keith Raniere at the time that I prosecuted him. But they were both men who have significant influences in the spheres in which they operated. And

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

The way that I charged the NXIVM case was recognizing that the crimes that Keith Raniere committed, he was able to commit over such a long period of time and with so many victims because he did have the involvement of other people and because he was part of this organization where A lot of individuals were benefiting financially, emotionally from being with him.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

The way that I charged the NXIVM case was recognizing that the crimes that Keith Raniere committed, he was able to commit over such a long period of time and with so many victims because he did have the involvement of other people and because he was part of this organization where A lot of individuals were benefiting financially, emotionally from being with him.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

They aggrandized him and were willing to participate in the victimization of other people on his behalf. In the Naxium case, for the sex trafficking piece, there were a number of different ways in which we proved the elements. But Basically, what we were saying was that women were collateralized. So there were women who thought they were joining a female empowerment group.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

They aggrandized him and were willing to participate in the victimization of other people on his behalf. In the Naxium case, for the sex trafficking piece, there were a number of different ways in which we proved the elements. But Basically, what we were saying was that women were collateralized. So there were women who thought they were joining a female empowerment group.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

And as part of joining that, they were forced to hand over women. nude pictures, damning information about themselves, either true or false. Once they had handed over that information, only later, once that blackmail material was already obtained, did they learn that part of this organization was requiring them to have sex with Keith Raniere?

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

And as part of joining that, they were forced to hand over women. nude pictures, damning information about themselves, either true or false. Once they had handed over that information, only later, once that blackmail material was already obtained, did they learn that part of this organization was requiring them to have sex with Keith Raniere?

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

So that was the coercion that you see in terms of the sex trafficking charges that we have there. And then in terms of the racketeering charges, again, we had other individuals who were helping groom women, and who were involved in other crimes for Keith Raniere, including covering up different pieces of it. In terms of showing that the victims were under the coercive control of the defendant...

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

So that was the coercion that you see in terms of the sex trafficking charges that we have there. And then in terms of the racketeering charges, again, we had other individuals who were helping groom women, and who were involved in other crimes for Keith Raniere, including covering up different pieces of it. In terms of showing that the victims were under the coercive control of the defendant...

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

Again, there were a lot of similarities. So the women in my case were controlled in every aspect of their life. And their whole lives had really become this person, this organization. Their careers, they were really separated from people who could really serve as sounding boards for what was going on. One difference that we do have is the level of alleged physical violence in the Sean Combs case.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

Again, there were a lot of similarities. So the women in my case were controlled in every aspect of their life. And their whole lives had really become this person, this organization. Their careers, they were really separated from people who could really serve as sounding boards for what was going on. One difference that we do have is the level of alleged physical violence in the Sean Combs case.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

In the Naxiom case, there was a little bit of that. And of course, the sex crimes themselves are inherently violent. But this sort of brutal physical violence is something that we didn't have in my case, but that you do have in this case and that I think is very powerful evidence for the prosecutors.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

In the Naxiom case, there was a little bit of that. And of course, the sex crimes themselves are inherently violent. But this sort of brutal physical violence is something that we didn't have in my case, but that you do have in this case and that I think is very powerful evidence for the prosecutors.

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

Mark and Tenny were the team in the NXIVM case, so I know them well. Ms. Garagos did not have as much of a stand-up role during the NXIVM trial. I certainly think she's a talented lawyer. And I do think optically it was...

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

Mark and Tenny were the team in the NXIVM case, so I know them well. Ms. Garagos did not have as much of a stand-up role during the NXIVM trial. I certainly think she's a talented lawyer. And I do think optically it was...

Bad Rap: The Case Against Diddy
The Trial: Prosecutors Go for the Big Fish

a good decision on the part of the defense team to have a young woman who was a contemporary of the prosecution team standing up and showing that she was on the defendant's side and advocating for the defendant. So I think to Mark and Tenny's credit, I don't think they're necessarily following the same playbook that I saw in their defense of Keith Raniere.