Molly Ball

Well, it's very busy. A lot of people liken it to trying to drink from a fire hose. There's so much happening that it's difficult for any one person to keep track of it all.

Well, it's very busy. A lot of people liken it to trying to drink from a fire hose. There's so much happening that it's difficult for any one person to keep track of it all.

There's a lot of speculation about that, and we don't know. On the one hand, they clearly want to make an early splash that they can then either dial back or modulate in some ways. On the other hand, they do want to take this approach to vast swaths of the government, so it could continue in this way for quite some time.

There's a lot of speculation about that, and we don't know. On the one hand, they clearly want to make an early splash that they can then either dial back or modulate in some ways. On the other hand, they do want to take this approach to vast swaths of the government, so it could continue in this way for quite some time.

There's a lot of speculation about that, and we don't know. On the one hand, they clearly want to make an early splash that they can then either dial back or modulate in some ways. On the other hand, they do want to take this approach to vast swaths of the government, so it could continue in this way for quite some time.

And as someone who covered the first Trump administration, that was pretty intense pretty much throughout.

And as someone who covered the first Trump administration, that was pretty intense pretty much throughout.

And as someone who covered the first Trump administration, that was pretty intense pretty much throughout.

And I'm Molly Ball.

And I'm Molly Ball.

And I'm Molly Ball.

Hey, Joel. Thanks for being here.

Hey, Joel. Thanks for being here.

Hey, Joel. Thanks for being here.

Well, that's the question a lot of people are asking. Yes, on paper, this is an independent agency that was created by Congress and therefore would require an act of Congress to eliminate. On the other hand, the attitude this administration has taken, as Joel has been describing, is sort of like try and stop us. And who's going to stop us? So, yes, there have been lawsuits filed.

Well, that's the question a lot of people are asking. Yes, on paper, this is an independent agency that was created by Congress and therefore would require an act of Congress to eliminate. On the other hand, the attitude this administration has taken, as Joel has been describing, is sort of like try and stop us. And who's going to stop us? So, yes, there have been lawsuits filed.

Well, that's the question a lot of people are asking. Yes, on paper, this is an independent agency that was created by Congress and therefore would require an act of Congress to eliminate. On the other hand, the attitude this administration has taken, as Joel has been describing, is sort of like try and stop us. And who's going to stop us? So, yes, there have been lawsuits filed.

We haven't heard much from the Republicans in Congress. Some of them have sort of tentatively suggested that maybe this is all going a little bit too far too fast. But there hasn't been action taken by Congress. And these lawsuits could take a while to get through the courts.

We haven't heard much from the Republicans in Congress. Some of them have sort of tentatively suggested that maybe this is all going a little bit too far too fast. But there hasn't been action taken by Congress. And these lawsuits could take a while to get through the courts.

We haven't heard much from the Republicans in Congress. Some of them have sort of tentatively suggested that maybe this is all going a little bit too far too fast. But there hasn't been action taken by Congress. And these lawsuits could take a while to get through the courts.