Molly Ball
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I mean, you know me. I try never to be surprised by anything Trump does. He had repeatedly said that he, like you said, was going to ride this out, was going to stick to his guns, didn't mind the pain, didn't care what was happening in the economy and the markets. But we were hearing this rising tide of angst from people around him and people in the Republican Party.
I mean, you know me. I try never to be surprised by anything Trump does. He had repeatedly said that he, like you said, was going to ride this out, was going to stick to his guns, didn't mind the pain, didn't care what was happening in the economy and the markets. But we were hearing this rising tide of angst from people around him and people in the Republican Party.
So it wasn't too surprising that he did decide to change course. But if there's anything that's predictable about Trump, it's unpredictability.
So it wasn't too surprising that he did decide to change course. But if there's anything that's predictable about Trump, it's unpredictability.
So it wasn't too surprising that he did decide to change course. But if there's anything that's predictable about Trump, it's unpredictability.
Well, you know, there's always been this divide in the Republican Party between the sort of new right protectionists who have actually been cheering what Trump has been doing. And I talked to some of them, as well as the more traditional Republicans. most of whom have been pretty horrified by Trump's moves in this direction.
Well, you know, there's always been this divide in the Republican Party between the sort of new right protectionists who have actually been cheering what Trump has been doing. And I talked to some of them, as well as the more traditional Republicans. most of whom have been pretty horrified by Trump's moves in this direction.
Well, you know, there's always been this divide in the Republican Party between the sort of new right protectionists who have actually been cheering what Trump has been doing. And I talked to some of them, as well as the more traditional Republicans. most of whom have been pretty horrified by Trump's moves in this direction.
So, you know, there were some in, like, the sort of new right think tank world who were saying, yes, he's finally doing it. This is the promise that we believe he was elected on. And, you know, this is a very influential faction in today's White House, not only in the sort of Peter Navarros of the world. But J.D.
So, you know, there were some in, like, the sort of new right think tank world who were saying, yes, he's finally doing it. This is the promise that we believe he was elected on. And, you know, this is a very influential faction in today's White House, not only in the sort of Peter Navarros of the world. But J.D.
So, you know, there were some in, like, the sort of new right think tank world who were saying, yes, he's finally doing it. This is the promise that we believe he was elected on. And, you know, this is a very influential faction in today's White House, not only in the sort of Peter Navarros of the world. But J.D.
Vance is really one of the intellectual architects of this movement that wants to move the Republican Party in what they see as a pro-worker direction. And they're true believers in this philosophy Trump has been espousing about sort of gutting it out in the name of long-term reindustrialization.
Vance is really one of the intellectual architects of this movement that wants to move the Republican Party in what they see as a pro-worker direction. And they're true believers in this philosophy Trump has been espousing about sort of gutting it out in the name of long-term reindustrialization.
Vance is really one of the intellectual architects of this movement that wants to move the Republican Party in what they see as a pro-worker direction. And they're true believers in this philosophy Trump has been espousing about sort of gutting it out in the name of long-term reindustrialization.
So some people were absolutely thrilled to see that Trump was not cowed by the markets, and they were relatively dismayed to see him then cave.
So some people were absolutely thrilled to see that Trump was not cowed by the markets, and they were relatively dismayed to see him then cave.
So some people were absolutely thrilled to see that Trump was not cowed by the markets, and they were relatively dismayed to see him then cave.
Josh, one thing I've been interested about in this whole episode is that I felt like sort of infighting between different White House officials was a big theme of the first Trump term. But there hasn't necessarily been as much of it this time around. But now with these conflicts over economic policy, we're really seeing a return to that.
Josh, one thing I've been interested about in this whole episode is that I felt like sort of infighting between different White House officials was a big theme of the first Trump term. But there hasn't necessarily been as much of it this time around. But now with these conflicts over economic policy, we're really seeing a return to that.
Josh, one thing I've been interested about in this whole episode is that I felt like sort of infighting between different White House officials was a big theme of the first Trump term. But there hasn't necessarily been as much of it this time around. But now with these conflicts over economic policy, we're really seeing a return to that.