Molly Conger

Yeah, no, by definition, right, they are white South Africans. They are like, therefore, definitely the group that benefited from the apartheid era. Very much so. As if this wasn't clear enough, Christopher Landau appeared at a press conference meeting these refugees wearing a orange, white and blue tie. It's quite a unique tie. I actually googled orange, white and blue tie. I couldn't find one.

Yeah, no, by definition, right, they are white South Africans. They are like, therefore, definitely the group that benefited from the apartheid era. Very much so. As if this wasn't clear enough, Christopher Landau appeared at a press conference meeting these refugees wearing a orange, white and blue tie. It's quite a unique tie. I actually googled orange, white and blue tie. I couldn't find one.

Yeah, no, by definition, right, they are white South Africans. They are like, therefore, definitely the group that benefited from the apartheid era. Very much so. As if this wasn't clear enough, Christopher Landau appeared at a press conference meeting these refugees wearing a orange, white and blue tie. It's quite a unique tie. I actually googled orange, white and blue tie. I couldn't find one.

For people who are not familiar, that is the apartheid era flag of the Republic of South Africa.

For people who are not familiar, that is the apartheid era flag of the Republic of South Africa.

For people who are not familiar, that is the apartheid era flag of the Republic of South Africa.

Yeah, it's got to be a choice, right? No one has a striped orange, white, and navy blue tie lying around.

Yeah, it's got to be a choice, right? No one has a striped orange, white, and navy blue tie lying around.

Yeah, it's got to be a choice, right? No one has a striped orange, white, and navy blue tie lying around.

Yeah, it was not in the mainstream. That is a troubling sartorial choice. Yeah, it is worrying. Like you say, there's a line from the Afrikaners through Dylann Roof to this horrific ideology, right? Do you know what probably doesn't have a direct line to apartheid? We can't be sure of that, I guess. But hopefully these products and services do not have a direct through line from apartheid.

Yeah, it was not in the mainstream. That is a troubling sartorial choice. Yeah, it is worrying. Like you say, there's a line from the Afrikaners through Dylann Roof to this horrific ideology, right? Do you know what probably doesn't have a direct line to apartheid? We can't be sure of that, I guess. But hopefully these products and services do not have a direct through line from apartheid.

Yeah, it was not in the mainstream. That is a troubling sartorial choice. Yeah, it is worrying. Like you say, there's a line from the Afrikaners through Dylann Roof to this horrific ideology, right? Do you know what probably doesn't have a direct line to apartheid? We can't be sure of that, I guess. But hopefully these products and services do not have a direct through line from apartheid.

All right, we're back. Hopefully that was something nice. I want to talk a little bit about the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. I think people sometimes misunderstand the program, what it means, where it comes from, who it's for. So to begin with, I want to distinguish between asylum seekers and refugees because I think in the popular lexicon, these two words are used interchangeably.

All right, we're back. Hopefully that was something nice. I want to talk a little bit about the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. I think people sometimes misunderstand the program, what it means, where it comes from, who it's for. So to begin with, I want to distinguish between asylum seekers and refugees because I think in the popular lexicon, these two words are used interchangeably.

All right, we're back. Hopefully that was something nice. I want to talk a little bit about the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. I think people sometimes misunderstand the program, what it means, where it comes from, who it's for. So to begin with, I want to distinguish between asylum seekers and refugees because I think in the popular lexicon, these two words are used interchangeably.

A refugee is outside of the United States and makes an application through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. And that application is processed and approved or rejected or delayed or left for years and years and years while they are outside the United States.

A refugee is outside of the United States and makes an application through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. And that application is processed and approved or rejected or delayed or left for years and years and years while they are outside the United States.

A refugee is outside of the United States and makes an application through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program. And that application is processed and approved or rejected or delayed or left for years and years and years while they are outside the United States.

An asylum seeker is someone who is either inside the United States or presenting at the border of the United States and requesting asylum. So they're different categories, right? Generally, to be a refugee, one has to register with the United Nations High Commission on Refugees, and thus one has to have fled one's home country. It's somewhat notable that this flight came from Johannesburg, right?

An asylum seeker is someone who is either inside the United States or presenting at the border of the United States and requesting asylum. So they're different categories, right? Generally, to be a refugee, one has to register with the United Nations High Commission on Refugees, and thus one has to have fled one's home country. It's somewhat notable that this flight came from Johannesburg, right?