Molly Webster

I just thought it was like the only people who did were like royals who were highly attended to.

No.

So there's this interesting thing where, like, we get these average life expectancy numbers.

And the average is taken to account the fact that people die before, like, the age of five because they die in childbirth.

They die of infant diseases.

Oh, it's like a skewed average.

Yeah, exactly.

So if you account for that, you see that many women were, in fact, living 20, 25 years, 30 years after they could no longer reproduce.

So humans have been going through menopause, like, for the entire history of humans.

And back to Lucy, she says that going into menopause for her was pretty brutal.

I mean, hot sweats and furious moods.

And it's pretty brutal for a lot of women.

That's a question.

Yeah, it's a pretty intense way to put it.

For such a long time, it's been completely ignored by science, by culture.

And probably partly because of that, I do think a lot of women...

End up feeling invisible or useless.

So when I heard that killer whales went through menopause, it felt like a chance to ask, what is this time in her life for?

In a kind of different, more scientific way.

So this is a scientist named Darren Croft.