Monica Lewinsky

And so I think there are a lot of, particularly Gen X women, for whom all sorts of kinds of traumas that we now have names for, we didn't have names for them back then, but they were traumas.

And so you just sort of cut off.

And so I started doing somatic therapy a few years ago around...

Oh, yeah.

We talked about this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just like a very – it gives me a very different perspective to what you're saying.

I think too, you've also had the experience and I know this experience intimately also of

trying to shrink yourself.

And when I was, after I did my Vanity Fair piece and I was gonna give a talk, I was one of the many helpers I have.

I was working with her of,

oh, I don't know how to get big again.

I have spent so much time tamping my energy down, trying to get smaller, trying to be invisible.

And so I ended up picking a color.

I went and bought velvet ribbon that color.

I'd stick a piece of my bra.

And it was like a way to sort of try to bring in, okay, this is my permission to get big.

And

In a way, that's what you're saying is that it is going to be the best performance when all of you is there.