Monica Lewinsky

And too many of us aren't listening.

And I wanted my family and my friends to be able to have the opportunity to listen.

And when you can hear them, you can really truly be in touch with yourself.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's amazing.

It's so interesting what you're saying, too.

Journey Smollett was on just a couple weeks ago.

Me too.

And we were talking about sort of transgenerational trauma and that, you know, and she was talking about where that connection to ancestry comes in for her in her work.

And I just think what a beautiful connection.

thing that you did about and the way you talk about it, too, of just the listening.

And my mom, you know, my mom had never been to Africa.

And my mom's sister, my aunt Katie, and we were in Ghana.

at the River of No Return, where they would, you know, after basically marching our ancestors the distance from New York to Florida, they would put them in this river to clean them up, and they'd, you know, lather them in grease to create the appearance of good health, to get the highest dollar.

And as we were walking down towards this river, my mom falls out.

And my mom is late 70s, and I'm thinking...

Oh, this is it.

My mom just died.

And everyone's, and this is all, you know, the cameras were rolling, so this is all being caught.

Oh my gosh.