Monica Lewinsky

And it's so – and one of the things I appreciate about your writing is the nuance. And I think, you know, and that's what I hear you saying now of like trying to unpack these, you know – experiences and I went through the same thing. I think like with my own of just kind of first feeling and I know you

said a similar sentiment in your piece too, of like, am I the voice that like, there are a lot of other voices that should maybe be heard in this subject area. That's how I felt for myself. But I think that way of just trying to think, okay, how do we, how do you reprocess, but also allow yourself space to go and, Yes, it was that, but no, it wasn't that.

said a similar sentiment in your piece too, of like, am I the voice that like, there are a lot of other voices that should maybe be heard in this subject area. That's how I felt for myself. But I think that way of just trying to think, okay, how do we, how do you reprocess, but also allow yourself space to go and, Yes, it was that, but no, it wasn't that.

And also, I think I was very and have always been mindful of, gosh, I don't want to be getting on some bus that everybody's getting on. And like we, you know, it's always been really important to me to sort of differentiate the, yeah, there was abuse of power, but it was not sexual assault. You know, my experiences from 98.

And also, I think I was very and have always been mindful of, gosh, I don't want to be getting on some bus that everybody's getting on. And like we, you know, it's always been really important to me to sort of differentiate the, yeah, there was abuse of power, but it was not sexual assault. You know, my experiences from 98.

Really? I don't know. I mean, I always come away from our conversations and feel sort of renewed and like I've thought about something in a different way. And I've always been so impressed by how you've, especially over the years, like you've become an unpacker, like a real unpacker of looking at things and reevaluating and I've

Really? I don't know. I mean, I always come away from our conversations and feel sort of renewed and like I've thought about something in a different way. And I've always been so impressed by how you've, especially over the years, like you've become an unpacker, like a real unpacker of looking at things and reevaluating and I've

heard you talk about things in ways that are so like emotionally and spiritually impressive, if that makes sense.

heard you talk about things in ways that are so like emotionally and spiritually impressive, if that makes sense.

Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean, we've known each other for a really long time, really long time.

Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean, we've known each other for a really long time, really long time.

It was, it was very, um, I mean, I'm crying, but it happened to you.

It was, it was very, um, I mean, I'm crying, but it happened to you.

So I mean, just like, I think to explain, right. That the, uh, I had gone to temple, I think it was Yom Kippur. I'd gone to temple with some of my relatives here in New York and I wasn't a member of the congregation. And so the rabbi had used me as a negative example of something in his life. in his speech.

So I mean, just like, I think to explain, right. That the, uh, I had gone to temple, I think it was Yom Kippur. I'd gone to temple with some of my relatives here in New York and I wasn't a member of the congregation. And so the rabbi had used me as a negative example of something in his life. in his speech.

And it was, and it's interesting because I feel myself now, because I remember the moment of just, I just shut down. Like I just, I become so used to being publicly shamed in different ways. And so I think that it was jarring because it was an unexpected place. I just feel I can, it's like a cement wall just sort of comes down like a gate, you know? So you're so sweet.

And it was, and it's interesting because I feel myself now, because I remember the moment of just, I just shut down. Like I just, I become so used to being publicly shamed in different ways. And so I think that it was jarring because it was an unexpected place. I just feel I can, it's like a cement wall just sort of comes down like a gate, you know? So you're so sweet.

So I like to ask everybody at the end if there is anything that you are working on reclaiming right now. And it doesn't have to necessarily be an emotional thing. It could be anything that you have lost or had stolen that you're trying to get back. So it could be a memory or an object or, you know, or an experience. Yeah.

So I like to ask everybody at the end if there is anything that you are working on reclaiming right now. And it doesn't have to necessarily be an emotional thing. It could be anything that you have lost or had stolen that you're trying to get back. So it could be a memory or an object or, you know, or an experience. Yeah.

Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky is hosted and executive produced by me, Monica Lewinsky. Production services by WTF Media Studios. Our theme song is by Ben Benjamin and our music supervisor is Scott Velasquez. Our story producer is Elna Baker and our senior producer is Megan Donis. For Wondery, Eliza Mills is the development producer. Our managing producer is Taylor Sniffen.