Monica Lewinsky

I mean, that's sort of true. That is true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So as you were going through this, were you talking to your dad at this point?

So as you were going through this, were you talking to your dad at this point?

Yeah. I remember a dinner we had in L.A. a long time ago. And you really opened my eyes to something I didn't. you know, I guess naively hadn't thought about before that before people come out, they are being forced to live a lie.

Yeah. I remember a dinner we had in L.A. a long time ago. And you really opened my eyes to something I didn't. you know, I guess naively hadn't thought about before that before people come out, they are being forced to live a lie.

And I just, I hadn't thought about the weight of living with lies like that. And so like, I always, I understood, okay, yes, of course it's painful. You're, you, you know, you're, hiding in some ways, but somehow the idea that it was a lie and the heaviness of that was really.

And I just, I hadn't thought about the weight of living with lies like that. And so like, I always, I understood, okay, yes, of course it's painful. You're, you, you know, you're, hiding in some ways, but somehow the idea that it was a lie and the heaviness of that was really.

Sometimes. Sometimes you just...

Sometimes. Sometimes you just...

I mean, it was a nightmare, but... It was so tangled. Yes, it was too... And so many... And I was so young. Tendrils. But I think... Yeah.

I mean, it was a nightmare, but... It was so tangled. Yes, it was too... And so many... And I was so young. Tendrils. But I think... Yeah.

Well, I think for me, it was... You know, I think that a lot of the work I had to do when I came out of graduate school, and I thought I had gone to graduate school thinking, okay, now I'm going to start my real life as Monica Lewinsky, whoever I was supposed to be, and came out and couldn't get a job. I think that...

Well, I think for me, it was... You know, I think that a lot of the work I had to do when I came out of graduate school, and I thought I had gone to graduate school thinking, okay, now I'm going to start my real life as Monica Lewinsky, whoever I was supposed to be, and came out and couldn't get a job. I think that...

So much of the work I had to do in that, you know, what I call the dark decade, which you were there for. Yes. And.

So much of the work I had to do in that, you know, what I call the dark decade, which you were there for. Yes. And.

I still have them.

I still have them.

I know, right? Like a secret inventor. Einstein and me.