Monica Lewinsky

And were you anxious at the same time when you were younger or is this something that came...

I mean, well, I mean, you're younger than I am, but I, I don't, so I don't know for you, but I know for me growing up, we didn't, the anxiety was not a word that was used. It was like, oh, my stomach hurts. No, you know, no.

I mean, well, I mean, you're younger than I am, but I, I don't, so I don't know for you, but I know for me growing up, we didn't, the anxiety was not a word that was used. It was like, oh, my stomach hurts. No, you know, no.

Yeah. Wait, are you also Libra rising? No.

Yeah. Wait, are you also Libra rising? No.

Okay, me too. And then Cancer. You're Leo. Right. But I'm right on the cusp of Cancer and Leo. Yeah. So in Libra justice. Yeah, exactly.

Okay, me too. And then Cancer. You're Leo. Right. But I'm right on the cusp of Cancer and Leo. Yeah. So in Libra justice. Yeah, exactly.

But nuance isn't something... I don't know that a lot of young people have nuance, but for you, you felt like it was more demarcated than... Here's a really great example of how it affected me in my adult life.

But nuance isn't something... I don't know that a lot of young people have nuance, but for you, you felt like it was more demarcated than... Here's a really great example of how it affected me in my adult life.

Yeah, the online, right? Because Tarana... Burke started, right, 10 years prior. Oh, yes, yes. So the online version.

Yeah, the online, right? Because Tarana... Burke started, right, 10 years prior. Oh, yes, yes. So the online version.

Was that experience what led you into kind of diving deeper into your healing work or was that a result that you felt you could sort of stand behind your voice in that way was a result of having done the personal work.

Was that experience what led you into kind of diving deeper into your healing work or was that a result that you felt you could sort of stand behind your voice in that way was a result of having done the personal work.

So many women, I think, find themselves in different levels of relationships that are everything from psychologically and emotionally abusive to physically abusive, and I think find it hard to leave. I think people talk more now about you know, attachment styles and stuff. And so I look back on some of my relationships during what I call my dark decade.

So many women, I think, find themselves in different levels of relationships that are everything from psychologically and emotionally abusive to physically abusive, and I think find it hard to leave. I think people talk more now about you know, attachment styles and stuff. And so I look back on some of my relationships during what I call my dark decade.

So kind of in between 98 graduate school, whatever, and my first person essay in Vanity Fair in 2014. And I think I look at it, and maybe it's a story I tell myself, but I I think about that the pain I was in staying in relationships with people who didn't value me, who talked to me a certain way that I allowed and accepted and kept going back for more. And I look at it and I think I was...

So kind of in between 98 graduate school, whatever, and my first person essay in Vanity Fair in 2014. And I think I look at it, and maybe it's a story I tell myself, but I I think about that the pain I was in staying in relationships with people who didn't value me, who talked to me a certain way that I allowed and accepted and kept going back for more. And I look at it and I think I was...

I was in a deeper pain and experiencing the pain in the relationship was actually easier. I knew I had to go through pain and that was easier than the pain of really what I was sitting on of both, not only my experiences in 98, whatever, all those experiences before it that, that, that led to all of that. And so did you feel, do you feel like, does that resonate at all or something different?

I was in a deeper pain and experiencing the pain in the relationship was actually easier. I knew I had to go through pain and that was easier than the pain of really what I was sitting on of both, not only my experiences in 98, whatever, all those experiences before it that, that, that led to all of that. And so did you feel, do you feel like, does that resonate at all or something different?

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