Monica Padman

I can't believe she was just walking around and people were walking around.

She was stuck like that and so scared to like, oh.

It's so terrible.

But she's amazing.

It's so aspirational and admirable and yeah.

Okay, a couple facts.

Also, you asked me, you were like, was that part of why you were so scared of kidnapping?

Yeah.

But when I was thinking about the timeline, no, because she's my age and that I was in

Yeah, or I was still scared, but it had started when I was five or something.

But you know what's also really upsetting is like when I was first scared of kidnapping and it was in my prayer and stuff, robbers and kidnappers, I like polyclassed

That she was one of the first ones that was kidnapped and that I was young for that.

Oh, it happened in San Francisco and she was kidnapped and it was, I think like a birthday party or something.

Yeah.

My mom like was like obsessed with the poly class thing.

Yeah.

She was scared.

And then it, you know, came trickle down effect.

Sure.

Trickle down economics to me.