Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Morgan Absher

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4910 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And this reader tells Avery to look into a murder, one that happened back in October of 1966, and it's one that he believes was the Zodiac's first real kill.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

Here you are not connecting it to the police. So you don't know what damage that could be doing.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

Here you are not connecting it to the police. So you don't know what damage that could be doing.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

Here you are not connecting it to the police. So you don't know what damage that could be doing.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

So who is Arthur Lee Allen? Well, according to Don, he first met Arthur back in 1962 through Arthur's younger brother, Ron. Don and Ron went to Cal Poly Pomona in Southern California together. And Arthur, who's about 29 at that time, hangs out with them a lot. They like to have beers and go hunting together. They all end up living in the Bay Area in the late 60s, specifically Vallejo.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

So who is Arthur Lee Allen? Well, according to Don, he first met Arthur back in 1962 through Arthur's younger brother, Ron. Don and Ron went to Cal Poly Pomona in Southern California together. And Arthur, who's about 29 at that time, hangs out with them a lot. They like to have beers and go hunting together. They all end up living in the Bay Area in the late 60s, specifically Vallejo.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

So who is Arthur Lee Allen? Well, according to Don, he first met Arthur back in 1962 through Arthur's younger brother, Ron. Don and Ron went to Cal Poly Pomona in Southern California together. And Arthur, who's about 29 at that time, hangs out with them a lot. They like to have beers and go hunting together. They all end up living in the Bay Area in the late 60s, specifically Vallejo.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And as a reminder, this is where the Zodiac's first two confirmed attacks were, on December 20th, 1968, and on July 4th, 1969. And just a couple of weeks after that first attack, right around New Year's Day, 1971, Don went to go hang out with Arthur at his apartment. Don notes that Arthur is a big fan of science fiction.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And as a reminder, this is where the Zodiac's first two confirmed attacks were, on December 20th, 1968, and on July 4th, 1969. And just a couple of weeks after that first attack, right around New Year's Day, 1971, Don went to go hang out with Arthur at his apartment. Don notes that Arthur is a big fan of science fiction.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And as a reminder, this is where the Zodiac's first two confirmed attacks were, on December 20th, 1968, and on July 4th, 1969. And just a couple of weeks after that first attack, right around New Year's Day, 1971, Don went to go hang out with Arthur at his apartment. Don notes that Arthur is a big fan of science fiction.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And when he goes there that day, Don notices that Arthur has a sci-fi magazine on the table. But it's flipped open to a particular story, one called The Man from Zodiac. At the time, it didn't really mean a whole lot to Don, since the killer wouldn't refer to himself as the Zodiac Killer until later that year.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And when he goes there that day, Don notices that Arthur has a sci-fi magazine on the table. But it's flipped open to a particular story, one called The Man from Zodiac. At the time, it didn't really mean a whole lot to Don, since the killer wouldn't refer to himself as the Zodiac Killer until later that year.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

And when he goes there that day, Don notices that Arthur has a sci-fi magazine on the table. But it's flipped open to a particular story, one called The Man from Zodiac. At the time, it didn't really mean a whole lot to Don, since the killer wouldn't refer to himself as the Zodiac Killer until later that year.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

But the image really stuck in Don's mind, because Arthur was also acting really strange that day. He had recently been fired from his job as a teacher and was talking about a career change. He wanted to become a private investigator. Don points out to Arthur that, hey, you have zero experience and you don't really have a network to draw from either.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

But the image really stuck in Don's mind, because Arthur was also acting really strange that day. He had recently been fired from his job as a teacher and was talking about a career change. He wanted to become a private investigator. Don points out to Arthur that, hey, you have zero experience and you don't really have a network to draw from either.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

But the image really stuck in Don's mind, because Arthur was also acting really strange that day. He had recently been fired from his job as a teacher and was talking about a career change. He wanted to become a private investigator. Don points out to Arthur that, hey, you have zero experience and you don't really have a network to draw from either.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

But Arthur said that doesn't really matter because he can create his own cases. Specifically, he says he'll go after victims at night using a flashlight attached to a gun barrel and he'll pick victims at random to really throw police off. Mind you, this was 12 days after the attack on David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen. So the story would have been all over the news, especially locally.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

But Arthur said that doesn't really matter because he can create his own cases. Specifically, he says he'll go after victims at night using a flashlight attached to a gun barrel and he'll pick victims at random to really throw police off. Mind you, this was 12 days after the attack on David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen. So the story would have been all over the news, especially locally.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

But Arthur said that doesn't really matter because he can create his own cases. Specifically, he says he'll go after victims at night using a flashlight attached to a gun barrel and he'll pick victims at random to really throw police off. Mind you, this was 12 days after the attack on David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen. So the story would have been all over the news, especially locally.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
SERIAL KILLER: The Zodiac Killer

So it is totally possible that Arthur just saw the headlines and was picking out details from that. Except he takes this all a step further and adds something else. One detail that wouldn't be widely known until much later. Arthur says he would also write strange letters to confuse the police even more. And this little detail, and he would sign them Zodiac. And you guys are like, what?