moses

I guess maybe that's like a past thing you look at as like an indicator.

It's like, if everything just feels helpless and everything feels miserable.

Did you have something else?

This wasn't,

No, it wasn't even a plan.

Like it was, I was just going to keep plumbing.

Okay, that's I don't stop doing that.

I'd only stopped doing that for about a year, right?

Because we were still like flying and I was plumbing and we were we were playing right.

So still doing all the things at once in the early years.

And then like maybe it was only a year or a year and a half that I had where we were just

just focusing on the playing.

So the idea of when I retire, I was like, I just know that whatever I'm doing now, I can't help the other people.

Like I feel responsible for us not getting the results and I feel terrible while that's happening.

So I was like, not only am I not contributing anything positive to the project, I'm also not contributing anything positive to me.

So it was like, you'd be happy to sacrifice one for the other.

If I felt miserable, we were making steps.

Great.

Or if I like, I felt good.

and we weren't making progress, that feels bad.