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I don't mean that they haven't evolved.

I mean, they still give the analysts the time and space and time and Richard to run the desk.

When you have a great conversationalist like Richard, right?

It changes the dynamic of a desk entirely, right?

Because one of the things that he does best is podcasting, which these are not podcasts, but they're condensed amounts of conversation, right?

And I think that

When you have a figure like him or a Duncan on, they're always going to inject a little bit of that variety we were talking about because the viewer gets caught off guard by the unknown, right?

Whereas what tends to happen in a lot of the other sequences is because you see the same people so regularly, it becomes an expectation.

And we're in the era of...

co-streamers right um owner is is obviously huge and as soon as a game ends the first thing he does is go and jump on geoguessr

And this is even when you have Krakow on where these skits are being pumped out on such a regular basis that if he just hung around for end of the game, he would get the live content as soon as it just happened, breaking with the rest of the world.

But instead he goes back and watches it in a downtime on a YouTube video.

Because the first thing he does, as soon as the game ends, he turns it off.

And he has a lot of viewers.

Now, am I saying we should cater to owner viewers?

No, but we clearly need to create something where you don't want to have a Kadriel situation happen like at League.

Yeah.

And you want to give them a reason to want to do that.

Right.

So anything like player related, I think like postgame interviews with the players at the desk where they come sit down and those conversations, if I'm a viewer, I'm sitting, staying around to watch those because it's not just, there's nothing to, again, this isn't to discredit, you know, uh, people who are doing the postgame interviews, but when I know I'm getting a lengthier chat with the