Mosheh Oinounou
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432 appearances
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1 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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I was watching an appearance by the former Trump Attorney General Bill Barr from his first term over on Fox News, who was like, listen, the executive order sounds great, but it doesn't have that much authority. You do need... at least Congress, to pass a law here.
But you potentially need a constitutional amendment given how many cases the courts have faced related to the 14th Amendment over the course of more than a century here, years of precedent. And if you were born here, regardless of your parents' legal status, you are an American. And so that is the interpretation of the 14th Amendment. And you can't just sign an order.
Otherwise, you do need Congress to get involved or even, again, further an amendment to the Constitution that revises the 14th Amendment. However, at the same time, the Trump order here gets the ball rolling on a national conversation. This is one of his goals about birthright citizenship that could lead to an eventual death. constitutional amendment here.
Now, amending the Constitution, we've only done it a few times in American history. It's incredibly challenging. You need a majority of states to sign on. You need Congress to go through it. That's an option. And so this will be difficult. And Trump sort of acknowledged it in the Oval Office as he was asked about it as he was going through all of his executive orders. And he had media in the room.
And they're like, well, what about this one? What about this one? He's like, we'll see about this one. You know, one of the many things that He signed related to immigration. Jill, before we leave the issue, a remarkable moment yesterday in Washington as part of inauguration festivities. There's a prayer breakfast at the National Cathedral.
Trump and Vance and their families, among a number of officials, were there on Tuesday. And that's where there were a number of religious officials who spoke, including a bishop. This is the Right Reverend Marian Edgar Buddy. And she made a point with the president in the room yesterday. of speaking directly to him, speaking critically of him.
We should note that Buddy has been critical of Trump in the past. And so she's a bishop there. And she took the opportunity to say it's incumbent upon us to speak the truth. And I want you, Mr. President, to show mercy to Americans who are scared right now. Those include LGBTQ Americans. She included illegal immigrants in there. Here, take a listen to a bit of what she had to say.
Jill, pretty remarkable that this bishop was like, you know what? I'm going to go for it here in the ceremony. A lot of people, if you read the comments, we posted the clip over on Instagram where you see the side by side of Trump staring at her in one camera while she speaks. People who are big advocates of hers being like, yeah, you know, I'm so glad she spoke to him.
Others who are like she was completely out of line. That was not something she should have been doing at the prayer breakfast. You know, she's very policy oriented here at a time where she's just been praying for the country. Trump, nonetheless, was asked about it afterwards and told the media as he was walking on White House grounds, he didn't like the service.
They need to do better over there at the church.
Well, yeah, you know, he's in a prayer breakfast. He thought it was just like being, you know, like we're going to pray for the country. We're going to pray for the president, et cetera. And the bishop here was like, no, I have thoughts for you. And I want to talk to you about how some people are feeling about your presidency.
Trump not one to enjoy, you know, being effectively lectured from the pulpit.
Jill, media was running around Capitol Hill yesterday trying to ask Democrats about it. And the repeated phrase from Chuck Schumer and others was, we're focused on the future. We're focused on the future. We're focused on the future. They did not want to talk about it.
Pretty remarkable move here. Again, not a surprise. I think the surprise for a number of Republicans on Capitol Hill was they were hoping that some of these guys, literally there's video of them assaulting police officers, beating them up with their own shields. And the hope was that they would distinguish between all of them.
But it appeared the priority at the Trump White House was all about just doing this as quickly as possible. And it would have taken a lot of time to go through the various cases, I guess. They didn't do it in advance of his presidency. So they decided to go with this blanket pardon, despite the fact that Trump you know, talks about, you know, protect the blue, protecting police officers here.
And so Trump was actually asked about this during one of his many media appearances in the first 36 hours here saying, hey, how does this jive with the fact that, you know, you're all about defending police officers? And he's just like, these people have served their time. There's other people out there who do worse things. You don't get prison time.
You know, sort of made it a sort of a what about argument. But nonetheless, he's like, these people have served their time. I have no issue with this. You know, this needed to happen.
Nonetheless, media running around Capitol Hill yesterday talking to Republicans, a number of Republican senators disappointed in the lack of discernment here between those who were pardoned for nonviolent offenses and those who were pardoned for violent offenses, basically just wiping them all clean. Lisa Murkowski, Republican senator from Alaska, said, I was disappointed to see this.
I do fear the message that is sent to these great men and women that stood by us. Speaking of police officers, you also had Bill Cassidy. He's a Republican senator from Louisiana. He said it's wrong to assault anybody, certainly a police officer. I'm a big back the blue guy. He was disappointed. Josh Hawley, Republican, big Trump guy from Missouri said,
said that if he were president, he would not have offered pardons to individuals who committed violence. But nonetheless, this was what Trump campaigned on. I could go on here. Tom Tillis, Republican from North Carolina, Susan Collins, Republican from Maine. All of them said, yeah, don't love this. But then they were quick to say, well, remember the Biden pardons of his family?
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