Mr. Ballin

This was great news for Hayward.

I mean, he was literally looking for exactly this information.

But this actually was not the reason why the deputy was so worked up.

Just the fact that she had a boyfriend.

He explained that Richard was Richard Finder, a supposed psychic from California who just happened to be in town on a ski vacation at the same time Barbara was killed.

And the reason they knew that was because Richard had just called the station completely out of the blue and offered to help.

A few hours later, Hayward sat down across an interrogation table from 30-year-old Richard Finder.

Richard had on glasses and he had a goatee and he seemed very confident and also quite eager to help.

But to Hayward, he just felt like he was putting on an act.

He felt certain that Richard had to be Barbara's killer.

After all, it actually was not unusual for murderers to actually insert themselves into the murder investigation.

to sort of, you know, see what's going on and maybe deflect blame away from themselves.

And so for Hayward, he felt like that was exactly what Richard was doing, you know, calling in to offer up his supposed psychic services.

But also, Hayward had spent the last couple of hours digging into Richard, and he also discovered that he owned a .357 pistol, the same kind of gun that had killed Barbara.

And on top of that, he found out the place where Richard was staying was in Salt Lake City, very close to Big Cottonwood Canyon, where Barbara's body was found.

It was just too many coincidences, and so Hayward was prepared to get extremely tough with Richard to get a confession.

But Hayward got a few of his background questions out of the way first.

And after asking Richard how he knew Barbara, Richard explained that they had connected after she had heard him speak on the radio.

And he said that they'd actually never been physical, but they'd had a deep spiritual relationship.

After that, Hayward cut to the chase and just asked Richard point blank why he had called the station.