Murray Mexted

No, you can't.

You can't get away with two.

And I know because I've played in all-black teams before.

that have had two jumpers only, not three.

And you're playing international level.

One of the things about playing at international level and playing at the top level, you've got to look at where you think you can beat the opposition in what area.

So even before the game, when you see the teams that are lined up, you say, well, they haven't got three big line-out forwards, so let's attack the vacant area.

Let's not throw it to where we're,

with strong defense let's throw it to our guys where we can win it and when they've got the ball let's target the two guys who are going to get them the ball because they've only got two and we've got three so do you understand what i mean yeah i do understand if that's the case then who becomes your number eight if you're looking at vi at six and whether or not he does get picked arty obviously starts at seven as captain who then becomes your number eight are you

See, I think Lakai, to answer your question, I think Lakai got in ahead of Karifi.

Yeah, I think he got in.

I mean, he's not a line out forward either.

And Satiti, I think Karifi and Satiti got in ahead of, I mean... Sorry, Lakai and...

Yeah, Lakai and Satiti.

Satiti and Lakai are probably pretty similar in size.

I mean, Satiti's probably a little bit bigger, but Karifi's even smaller again.

And like I said, you can take one, maybe two of those guys if you're naming a squad.

You can definitely take two, but you can't take three and four.

And the other thing, and I think John O'Gibbs has recognised that.

And so Jono Gibbs moved his captain to open side flanker.