Mustafa Suleyman

Just as historically, it hasn't been the case that you or I, given our backgrounds, could be sitting here having this conversation over video call and so on.

None of this was designed.

But I think what we've shown is that we are an unbelievably resilient and adaptive species.

And that every year, every month, every week, new information is arriving.

And thanks to science and engineering and technology, despite all of the polarization,

and the, you know, as you said, the kind of chaos of the fictions falling apart, despite all of that, the forward march of progress is actually happening and it is rational and it is science-based and it is evidence-based.

And I just feel more optimistic that actually no one in the industry, in regulators, outside of the industry, even in China, no one wants to destroy our species.

And when the time comes,

and the time is now coming very soon, I think that we collectively as humanity will make the right calls.

And you can say, what would those be?

I think that's a very important question.

I mean, one of the things that has already happened, not just in the models that we build for Copilot and Microsoft Superintelligence team, but elsewhere in other labs, is that we've been pretty careful in the design of these things.

They're quite even handed.

They're quite good at handling, you know, like sensitive questions around race and religion.

And obviously they have biases and they have made mistakes.

But if you look at the curve,

in improvement on the reduction in the hallucinations, the reduction in biases, the sense which they could be even handed, there's been a pretty good rate of progress.

Like three years ago, everyone was like, you know, terrible data in, terrible data out.

That was the sort of data science story of like big data, right?

No one says that anymore.