Mónica Guzmán

I mean, oftentimes when we hear advice or suggestions about how to tackle something, we don't.

We don't think of the worst possible person that we could talk to and then argue about that.

But that's what we're doing.

And I think it's because we're so afraid.

We're so afraid of each other.

We're afraid of the monster hiding behind our neighbor.

We're afraid of the monster that seems to be motivating all the wacky, horrible things going on in the world.

We're afraid of encountering that person.

The only ask here is for all of us to be one step more curious.

And that can be as little as not even having a conversation with another person.

You could have a more curious conversation with yourself when you're reading an opinion article about the other side, spoken with the voice of the other side.

And as you're reading that article that you would normally doom scroll through and hate tweet, you go, what is the deep down honest human concern?

being expressed here?

Or what is the strongest argument on this other side?

What can I learn from reading this piece?

That in and of itself is being more curious.

The last part of John Powell's anecdote there, you talked about how, yeah, there's a pastor who said, John, are you asking me to bridge with the devil?

And then he says, well, maybe don't start there.

He says,

Do the short bridges.