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Nadav Kidron

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
172 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

So they did both.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

$12 million was an investment and $38 million basically they paid in order, they paid some of it in order to get the license for China.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

I see.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

But if you look at the numbers, it gives you a valuation.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

Like I said, the market doesn't necessarily represent the right value because the market doesn't have the liquidity in it.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

Now we are, and this is public in our filing, we are in discussions with potential partners

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

And I think everybody understands that if we're going to do a deal, if we're going to strike a deal, it's not going to be based on the current market cap, but it's going to be based on the potential that everybody sees into this product.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

About $100 million.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

So they did it at about double than what the current market price is.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

That was at the end of 2015, December 2015.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

So I think there's a little bit of a bias in the United States about anything which is China-derived.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

That's my explanation.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

But I think the bottom line is there's not enough liquidity because if you're a big fund and you're seeing this thing and you're seeing an arbitrage and saying, here, the Chinese is paying $10.50 per share, the share price is trading at $5, I should be paying double

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

but then if there's not enough liquidity, if you're gonna start buying for one, two, $3 million, it's gonna go to $20 million, $20 a share, that's a limiting factor.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

It's a private placement.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

They gave us $12 million, and we issued shares for them at $10.4.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

If they would put $12 million into the market, it would have been probably at $15 or $18 per share.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

So we're in a niche that if you're a small investor, you can come in and you can enjoy it.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

But if you're a little bit of a bigger fund, you cannot come in.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1187 The Chinese Gave Him $50M For Orally Delivered Insulin Capsul Idea, Will It Take Off?

There's no entrance for you at this point in time.