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Nadia Raymond

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176 total appearances

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This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

But ultimately, they put in fake death dates for all those people.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Jeremiah didn't like it, but he did it anyway.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

This fixation with the Death Master file, little did Jeremiah know, it was just beginning.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

A few weeks after the 150-year-olds, Jeremiah says his higher-ups contacted him with a request from DHS, the Department of Homeland Security.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

And this request was unlike anything Jeremiah had seen in his more than 20 years at the agency.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Kill off?

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

to add these 6,000 or so names to the death master file.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

It was strange because normally, deaths are reported by funeral homes or family members or some state authority.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

And also, there was no indication from DHS that these people were dead.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

They just said, add these people to this list.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

So Jeremiah and his colleagues were trying to figure out what's going on and why these 6,000 in particular?

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Like, oh, is there a pattern here?

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Like, is it all like, is it all people from one area of the country?

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Is it like there was no, nothing like that that you were able to see?

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

DHS also sent a memo from then Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem about, quote, suspected terrorists who she said had social security numbers and access to our financial system.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

she asked the SSA to stop it in a way that was, quote, consistent with law.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

Jeremiah was pretty sure none of this request to mark 6,000 people as dead was lawful.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

No proof of death, for one thing.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

So he says he goes and asks someone at the Social Security Office of General Counsel, the lawyers, who tell him, yes, it is illegal.

This American Life
888: Not Today, Hades!

So Jeremiah and his team refuse.