Nalin Haley

And to be honest, I don't know which one's worse.

So.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

And I think just based off of our system now, I think we've seen that that's not the case if you want.

And now it's getting to a point where it's like, like you have to have a degree for everything now.

Like even do you want to work at McDonald's?

You have to get a degree.

You want to, you know, have this retail job, get a degree.

Like everything's a degree when it doesn't need to be a degree.

And so that's when we're seeing like so many people going into debt and

When they don't even need to go to college.

And that's how it was for my parents, my friends' parents, everybody else.

You got a job straight out of high school, not even college.

You got it out of high school.

And now it's just become so saturated that it's just you need a degree in something ridiculous for something that doesn't require it.

It's pushing people into debt when they don't need to be.

I think they're all confused.

I think they have no idea what to make of it because we didn't make it.