Nalin Haley

Do you feel that divide?

I would say, in some ways, I think it's a little exaggerated.

There are women who are traditional, but for the most part, men are more traditional in my generation.

Yes.

I think they're going in different directions, but they're going in different directions for a lot of the same reasons, which is empowerment.

Women see themselves as going the more progressive lane, that it's empowering to wear revealing clothes or do whatever you want and be promiscuous.

which is actually the male gaze of someone who just wants to view them as an object and not care about who they are as a person, which is, how is that empowering?

Exactly.

I'm just guessing.

It's ridiculous that that's seen as feminist, though.

But the reason why I think that is because on the other hand, you have men, and this is not a majority of traditional men, but there's this very small minority where they feel insecure and powerless.

They think that them having a traditional mindset where they're the leader, they're the provider, they're the protector, and they think, because of that, my role is better than that of a woman.

What that does, that's wrong, first of all, but what that does is that it gives ammo to the feminists who are like, look, see, see women, what we've been trying to tell you that they think they're better than you.

You have to go our way.

When in reality, it's, that's not what tradition is at all.

It's yes, men are the leader, provider, protector, all of that.

But without the woman, it just doesn't work.

The family structure doesn't work.

It doesn't work for a man in a family to not have a woman.

It doesn't work for a woman to not have a man.