Namik

And we can call it today.

But I think there is a massive design space which just hasn't been explored.

And its founders have been they're not here anymore.

So we have to do proactive work.

We can't be credibly neutral because that implies that there's abundance of developers, there's an abundance of founders, and they'll all build stuff and you don't want to pick winners.

My bigger fear is the developers are gone.

It's scarce.

No one's motivated to build anything.

And you actually can't be credibly neutral because if you do that, we just don't end up with any more apps.

We have to go in and we have to like,

try things, even if it ends up backfiring on us, right?

And it's backfired on Mega in a couple ways, don't get me wrong, because the alternative is worse, which is we end up with nothing for sure.

I don't know.

That's kind of like a bit of a doomer point of view, maybe.

But that's kind of like how we approach the problem with Mega.

Definitely.

So the real answer is, oh, we figured it out over time.

Right.

The first thesis of Mega Mafia was just like, hey, let's just go find founders.

You know, let's just get them to build stuff and let's just go live with a bunch of apps.