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Namwali Serpell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
535 total appearances

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

kind of incredible building in the last chapter of the novel toward this moment of revelation where Nell finally realizes, as she says, we was girls together.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

Oh, Lord, Sula, girl, girl, girl, girl, girl.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

And the cry that she releases is

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

rises up in these circles of sorrow.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

And when that sentence comes into my life, whether I'm reading it to teach, whether I'm rereading it to write, whether I'm reading it out loud, even just now, tears always spring to my eyes.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

It's just such an incredible evocation of what it feels like to lose the love of your life, which is your friend.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

That's a really good question.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

I, in my book, make a similar argument to the discussion that was on the New York Times podcast.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

But rather than thinking about her as a saint โ€“

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

I am thinking about her and the way she's been turned into a monument.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

And I find it helpful to think about Morrison's relationship to monuments as a way of reframing how we think about her because she was very skeptical.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

of monuments in certain kinds of ways.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

And there's โ€“ for example, I visited Ohio and I had the wonderful opportunity to go to Lorain where Morrison was born and grew up.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

And in Lorain, the public library has a room dedicated to her.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

This was how Morrison wanted to be honored, by a room in a library filled with books where people could come and read, which isn't the same as having a statue or having a plaque attached to a building.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

They renamed a building at Princeton Morrison Hall, and she sort of very wryly said that there's a kind of inevitability to that.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

She really liked the fact of this.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

But at the same time, I think it's very clear to me that what Morrison wanted most of all was for people to read and to read her, that that's actually what was so important.

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Have we been reading Toni Morrison all wrong?

Thank you so much for having me and thank you for these wonderful questions.

Secret Life of Books
"On Morrison": a conversation with Namwali Serpell

Thank you so much, Sophie.