Nancy Grace (Host)

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I remember reading one of my own transcripts of a trial I tried, a felony, and I was writing the appeal to hold the conviction on appeal.

And I must have been very, very tired by the end of that trial because I was arguing to the judge and I was making my legal argument and said, and judge, blah, blah.

Okay, like you're et cetera, et cetera.

I know one person, aside from myself, that will take issue with the cause of death and manner of death being called et cetera, et cetera.

Dr. Kendall Crowns joining us, Chief Medical Examiner, Tarrant County.

host of a hit new podcast, Mayhem in the Morgue.

He is an esteemed lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU.

Dr. Kendall Crowns, thank you for being with us.

Got a lot of questions for you about mechanical strangulation.

What is it?

Okay, let me understand something.

You put your arm across your neck to demonstrate mechanical strangulation, but we have learned tonight that Anna had two bruises on the side of her neck, not the trach, not the front, the side of her neck.

What does that mean?

You know, another thing, let me check with Shannon Butler on this.

Investigative reporter, WFTV, Channel 9 in Florida, who's been on Anna's case from the very beginning.

Shannon, we are being told that while the entire autopsy is not complete, specifically toxicology and other lab work, that there was no sign of sex attack.

Have you learned that as well?

Yeah, that's what we understand.

I mean, remember, most of the information that we had been getting came mostly from family members, but that death certificate, at least preliminary information, does suggest that that's the case dancing.